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I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 34 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Gooning behaviour the sexual activity? Niche fetish. Never tried it. Never had the time to try it.

Gooning behaviour aka the porn version of being "terminally online"? Annoying at best, community destroying at worst.

Gooning behaviour aka how my friends use it, aka "we have this one friend who refuses to leave the house and we joke that he spends all his time gooning but is actually having a mental crisis and resists all our efforts to help him"? Uh ....

So basically, words are the devil and they lead us astray with their multitudes.

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[–] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 12 points 10 hours ago

use of the word goon is an alt-right psy-op

lol ok. good post tho.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 11 points 10 hours ago

I kink-shamed my garden hose the other day. I apologize for nothing.

[–] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 38 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

“We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it”

Idk maybe I am ignorant on history, but like…what time but the current would have MORE exposure to sexual content than the current internet age?
I do feel like we are living in one of the most if not the most sexually liberated and over exposed times in history for good or for ill I feel like that’s just obviously the case.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Exposure to sexual content is inherently a modern thing because it's wildly artificial to think of sexual activity as "content." Depictions of sex acts are ancient though, they just weren't commodified (and obviously there's a big qualitative difference between naughty engravings and live action recordings). But I would say that when humans lived in big polygamic groups before any kind of family structures had developed (and with the family structure strict sexual regulation) you could say they were more sexually liberated.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 27 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

Didn't Pompeii literally have dicks carved into the street to point the way to the nearest brothel? I think the classical world was incredibly sexually liberated and similarly exposed to sex a lot more than we are.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 30 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think we need Marx here. When you just have little depictions of nudity and sex as art pieces here and there it's a very different phenomenon compared to the commodification of sex. When we're talking about a commodity, it fundamentally transforms the relation we have with the object, it stops being just a thing that exists with a use value, to being a product that is brought to market and owned. It is produced in mass. Exploitation and alienation become parts of the operating process necessary for it to enter the market. So on and so forth.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Guy. You're comparing Internet porn to a society where there were prostitution currencies and brothels staffed by slaves

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[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago

i think there's probably a qualitative difference between vulgar graffiti and having a tiny machine in your pocket that has, and will be incentivized to create more, limitless simulations of people fucking for your gratification at any time.

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[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

What does sexual liberation mean to you? Putting housing out of ~~young~~ most people's reach, dating being enclosed by apps under a monopoly, wastelands of soul-less sexual content made solely to satisfy markets and algorithms, and wave after wave of legislation criminalizing queerness, sex education, and existing in public space couldn't possibly be what you mean. So what do you?

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 15 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

This and honestly I think the existence of dating apps is sexually repressive in and of itself.

Many people today are uncomfortable with the concept of flirting with a stranger at a bar. And I don’t just mean “Man you just can’t sexually harass a woman like you used to!”

Both men and women have now become accustomed to the idea that it’s only appropriate to flirt in the environment of dating app where flirting is inherently agreed on up front. It is only appropriate to do romance under the thumb of the corporations. Anything else would be a social faux pas, you wouldn’t want to potentially make someone uncomfortable would you? Best to stay in the meeting space designated to you b Capital.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago

Is that seriously the current state of dating in the US? Holy shit

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[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 38 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

I prefer spaces where sexual talk is kept to a minimum so a little too much Puritanism is a fair trade off for me

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Y'all talking about puritanism as if the reason for the volcel police isn't to make sure our precious bodily fluids aren't sapped and impurified.

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