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I blame Reddit for this. People are applying for anything out of desperation. Reddit advice from the 2021-2022 job market was to apply for everything even if you're unqualified, just because. 1 person will make a thread saying they had 1 YOE and got hired for a 5 YOE role and then 100,000 other people who view the thread think they can do the same or have the same luck.

We post a job that explicitly calls for 5 YOE or more. 5,000 applicants in a week. 95% of applicants will be people with 0-3 YOE. 2/3 of that 95% will be people who are international or need sponsorship, even though we have in big bold letters that we do not sponsor and do not hire international.

We've come to conclusion most of these applicants are using AI tools to spam their garbage across thousands of jobs and their resumes all sound the same with the same bullshit made up metrics. If you are using an AI resume, stop. It's 2025 not February 2023. GPT resumes aren't a secret edge anymore. Every single recruiter and hiring manager can easily tell what a GPT resume looks like now. They all look, sound and 'flow' the same.

Then, a solid amount of people straight up bullshit their resume and when you interview them, they know nothing and you can tell they used AI to fluff their resume good enough to appear like they know their stuff. They just lie about everything including titles and past companies in hopes they will pass the background check.

All of this takes a ton of time away from recruiters and hiring managers, and makes us overlook actual qualified applicants due to the sheer volume. Every time you meet the qualifications for a job and get ghosted, it's almost always because your resume never even got looked at because of the sheer volume of garbage we have to sort through to even get to the qualified applicants.

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[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ah yes. it is the fault of the applicants for tailoring their resumes to shitty ai scanning tools. and also it's the fault of the applicants for having to apply to a fuck ton of jobs bc most of them are fake postings

what a good system

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

100%. The way we apply for jobs has been fucked for DECADES. It is about time for the hiring managers to eat their dogfood. It sure does suck for your precious time to be wasted by hundreds of people who don't give a shit about you, doesn't it? It sure does suck to have to push the things you want to do back by months because people are wasting your time. It sure does sucks to be fighting against an impenetrable wall of computers. Too bad, I guess.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reddit advice from the 2021-2022 job market was to apply for everything even if you're unqualified, just because

tbh this advice has been around forever. it's often paired with the boomer advice of "just go in there and give em a firm handshake!"

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"If you just show up every day and keep asking for a job, they have to give you one"

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Huh. This is also how every boomer talks about how they met their wife, funny

“I just kept asking and showing up! Persistence pays off!!! I wore her out after awhile and she just couldn’t say no!”

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

HR gets the wall.

As someone with experience working in tech, the biggest hurdle to getting a job isn't proving that I know how to do my job to other engineers interviewing me but getting to the point where I can talk to them because the initial filter is HR drones who know exactly nothing about the job or work who are picking resumes completely off of a combination of A) what college they have a degree from, with a heavy emphasis on Ivy Leagues (most of which don't even have particularly noteworthy CS departments anyway), and B) how many arbitrary buzzwords-of-the-week that resume has plastered on it. All of this is usually getting initially filtered by "AI", ie shitty algorithms that have even more arbitrary buzzwords as their main criteria.

Every time I've ever gone job searching I've had to shotgun my resume out to dozens if not hundreds of postings. Again, I have plenty of experience in the industry, in a quasi-niche field that every company in the industry needs, and it doesn't matter because these dipshits can't learn to distinguish decent candidates, can't write postings that match the actual job expectations, and/or post literally fake job postings because their manager told them the company wants to look more successful than it actually is. I've dealt with them as a candidate, I've dealt with them as an interviewer on the inside, and I don't exaggerate when I say that I could step into their role and do it better than them with minimal effort.

Quick edit: Also, every job I've ever gotten had higher (sometimes significantly higher) YOE requirements than I could offer, and never once was that an issue, because YOE translates to someone in HR asking the hiring manager how many years someone should have experience working in this field, getting an answer, and then doubling it "to find the best candidates."

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exact same fucking experience. My current job's HR filters out applicants before they get to my boss. We have no idea what they're filtering, because we get stuff for people with no qualifications all the time. They also slow-roll the hiring process, once taking a full 2 years to even POST the job for someone who gave 6 months' notice that he was retiring. It just makes knowledge transfer impossible.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They also slow-roll the hiring process, once taking a full 2 years to even POST the job for someone who gave 6 months' notice that he was retiring. It just makes knowledge transfer impossible.

I think it's really underrated how much this phenomenon is degrading the effectiveness of organizations and companies in the USA. A tremendous amount of working knowledge is constantly bleeding out of companies because of the "dynamic labor market" that the USA cultivates. The constant churn is like they're constantly having mini strokes and losing part of their memory.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. I think a large factor is that HR employees fundamentally don't understand that there are jobs that actually have that sort of knowledge that one develops over years (or even decades) because their own jobs require all of 30 days training.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the biggest hurdle to getting a job isn't proving that I know how to do my job to other engineers interviewing me but getting to the point where I can talk to them because the initial filter is HR drones who know exactly nothing about the job or work

This was also very much my frustration from the hiring side. A look at a generic CV + a five minute chat with every applicant would've been 100x more effective for hiring who we needed, and no doubt more humane and way quicker for the applicants. Unfortunately our massively overexpensive recruitment systems and HR recruitment team and artificial requirements written by overpaid people with nothing better to do all blocked this idea and I was told the only way to hire is for me to sit back while they foist basically completely random people at me.

So these poor applicants are filling out a form I won't read, going through 30 minutes of wasted screening calls that aren't relevant, and only then do they get an hour booked where I sit down with them, but sadly for all but one of them that becomes a totally wasted time because we couldn't get a half-decent process together to screen properly from the get-go and respect applicants' damn time.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, I didn't fluff my resume at all with lies for 2 years, guess how many responses I got lol, my family members fluffed like crazy and have jobs, im finally taking their advice like I should have, lying my ass off

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No one wants someone with no experience and a degree, they want ppl with 5 years experience to do what a 5 year old with google can do

I have a hard time believing that a job with an HR deparment that asks for 5 YOE could be harder than beating Ocarina of Time without a guide

[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll confess I've used AI tools to automate job applications, and the results absolutely sucked. It would answer "Have you ever been fired before?" with "No, but I'm willing to learn". Honestly it's not terribly useful most times.

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago

agony-soviet willing to learn made me LOL

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Shame we don't live in some sort of planned economy.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I remember fear mongering like "in planned economies, you can't pick your own career" when I was in school, as if you can even have a career without a rich family in a liberal market economy.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of my family myths is this. "Don't you know your great grandma was forced to be a teacher in East Germany?" as if that's the most horrible fate in the world.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

idk have you seen classrooms? I'd rather pull the train.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But I was told it will all magically work out by the "free hand"...

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

We live in an economy.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago

Industrial reserve army? What's that?

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago

It definitely wasn't the industry flooding the market through decades of advocacy for STEM coupled with offshoring labor for half the price of domestic labor.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

"Nooooo! I'm sooo spoiled for choice now, I'm going to feign victimhood for some reason!"

Your JOB is to say no. You get PAID to say no. I don't get paid to say no. Therefore I'm not going to do your job for you. Don't like it? Stop doing that job!

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Counterpoint - when the revolution comes, these HR gatekeeping fucks get the wall

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

I have a cool job that I just accepted a few days ago but will always have a burning hatred for HR, dont @ me

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

The whole fucking thing is just bleak. jfc.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No idea where you live but in Poland barely anyone use reddit and AI and job market was like this for 30 years.

Neoliberalism ruined the job market

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

job hunting makes me suicidal, this guy is lucky i don't know his address.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

same :doomjak:

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