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[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

Did you ever consider that actually it's hateful to want people to not be oppressed? Checkmate tankie.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I swear I slipped through a right angle into a dimension where this isn't true anymore I feel fucking crazy like 90% of the time these days

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(Person says “Free Palestine!) (Person assaults a visibly Jewish individual)

Libs: these are the same thing.

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 year ago

"It's not so black and white! It's very complicated and nuanced, for example, when cops beat up a bunch of Jewish peace protesters that's not antisemitism, actually"

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

This is pretty sick. idk, it's just real bad. The state has re-defined "antisemitism" to mean any opposition to the Israeli state's violence. It's not very far from criminalizing the existence of Palestinian people

[–] Saoirse@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

It will never stop making my stomach churn to see the very real problem of antisemitism leveraged to provide rhetorical cover for a genocide.

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

When they go high, we fart low

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would somebody do me a favor and sink that stupid island already

[–] Rambi@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Be quiet, in all of the ways the UK is bad the USA is worse.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, if somebody could sink the USA for me too while they're at it I'd sure appreciate it ukkk amerikkka

[–] Rambi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Great. Sometimes it's frustrating when you advocate for Palestine and whatever else and then you read a comment saying you basically deserve to die. Which I understand is a joke, and that you're just going to reply mocking me now, but I wanted to say that anyway.

[–] emelia@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I think the person is referring to the state, but not the people or the environment.
The USA and the UK have strong patriotic currents which are entangled with their imperialist past and present.
I don't think anybody here thinks you deserve to die or claim this would be acceptable, random internet stranger 💜

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not going to mock you, comrade. Black humor is how we at hexbear deal with the crushing weight of the historical and ongoing crimes of the imperial core countries we come from. I can see how that might be jarring to an outsider.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rambi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that is unfortunate, I think we're basically in another cold war now which is great. I still would like my country to not be submerged underwater though seen as I don't have gills.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sorry, what @supafuzz@hexbear.net meant to say was "Another crackkka down, unlimited genocide on the first world"

(Other commenters are right though "death to America" or "from the river to the sea" are not calls to do ethnic cleansing - that is projection on the part of colonizers - it is a call to dismantle settler colonial states like Israel and the US. The jokes about sinking TERF Island come from the fact that they aren't technically colonizers there in the modern sense so they should just sink into the sea as there is nothing else to be done. Well almost nothing ira )

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

somebody should report the original creator of that meme for antisemitism

[–] arymandias@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

quick go domain squat zionistnews.co.uk

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The more I think about it, western media has always used this kind of righteous propaganda, it's just that more people can see how nakedly hypocritical it is this time. I mean isn't all the concern that's played up by the west about feminism, queer rights, terrorism, etc. basically the same thing? Like how the US justifies its imperialism against Iran under the guise of advancing women's rights or attacks China using queerphobia as pretense.

It's very useful because it allows imperialists to portray themselves as the good guys and dismiss their opposition as bigotry. "You don't want to bomb China? What are you, transphobic?"

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is why liberals are the actual global danger coming out of the west rather than the clown show that is the conservatives, who mostly focus on internal suppression.

The libs will gladly support undeniable ethnic cleansing so long as the narrative is in place. Republicans/Conservatives/whatthefuckever you call them will too for that matter, but like I mentioned, they're just focused on it internally much more than the libs who seem wish to export it globally

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't say I agree that there's any difference between Democrats and Republicans with regard to foreign policy. Endless war against everyone that opposes the US is totally bipartisan.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Their marketing and propaganda is what I'm trying to get at. I.e. liberals sell themselves as level headed and internally, relatively, progressive while the other side of the face screams for global war and murder

They both want war, Democrats and republicans, but republicans sell themselves with a bull shit internal culture war thing, which will die out and can't really be effectively exported outside the US, while the Democrats will say to you that they want to kill and justify it with a million different mental gymnastics, which seems to be a more effective strategy so far as popular approval goes

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Ah I see what you mean. Yeah, Democrats do a good job advertising themselves as the progressive brand. It surprises me that there's even people outside the US that think highly of them despite... everything about them.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Anyone else ever notice you never hear jack shit about antisemitism unless Israel is doing war crimes again ?

At what point does it become worth exploring whether the state of Israel itself is antisemitic?

[–] CompadredeOgum@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)