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[–] bumblebeehellbringer@hexbear.net 144 points 1 year ago (1 children)

THERE ARE TRANS PEOPLE WHO GET KILLED IN EVERY GENOCIDE

THERE ARE TRANS PEOPLE GETTING GENOCIDED IN PALESTINE

STOP THINKING ONLY WESTERN QUEERS MATTER

STOP THINKING ONLY WESTERN QUEERS EXIST

EVERY GENOCIDE KILLS QUEERS

QUEER PEOPLE ARE IN EVERY GROUP EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEE THEM

YES EVEN IN GROUPS OF "THE STRAIGHTS" OR "THE CIS" IT'S CALLED CLOSETING

seriously white queer genocidal takes are really pissing me off. Don't let our communities be twisted to supporting this vile bloodshed.

[–] AsLeftAsTheyCome@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I could be completely off base but I thought she was Canadian? If she’s concerned enough about queer folk in the US to nag people to vote for biden, why doesn’t that same concern extend to queer people in Palestine?

It’s always just the fucking family guy meme.

[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 135 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I expect democrats to protect trans people about about as much as they protected Roe v Wade

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

certainly less, some of them actually understood and cared about that issue

half of all democrats (women) are directly affected by roe v wade and they wouldn't even protect that yea

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

They've done some stuff at the state level but yeah federal dems won't do shit.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh huh, and what are Democrats doing to protect trans people, again?

https://translegislation.com/bills/2022

Not a whole lot, it seems.

[–] windowlicker@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

um, but haven't you seen (insert hollow gesture done by biden that does nothing for the material conditions of trans people)?

but muh rainbow flag

idk what it means but it's got some blue and pink stripes on it!

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

🧎‍♀️

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please vote for the guy who didn't do anything to protect trans people aside from not being Republican

Please continue to let your government, which hates you, run roughshod over the world and make it actively worse

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hmmm yes, 2024.

Should I vote for the DINO or should I vote red and make the president Republican in name as well? Decisions decisions....

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Should I vote for the DINO or should I vote red and make the president Republican in name as well?

you could vote for neither and reserve your votes for actually good people like my city councilor who seems to actually give a shit about housing, or writing in a cartoon character against the county clerk running unopposed.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Half-joking, but even by lib standards, Biden has just done nothing but enable the GOP for the whole term.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He has, which is what all Democrats do. Do you expect anything different?

[–] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you should vote red, as in communist

you should produce red, as in **** ***** *** ***** ******** ** ** * ******* minecraft

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh, God. Is Keffals going to become another Vaush-like personality that gets posted here frequently?

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 1 year ago

None of those right wing lib dumbasses should be acknowledged beyond calling them a dumbass and moving on. They aren't interesting. They're just racist and you can hear the same shit from any main stream media channel or White House press briefing

[–] dead@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think Keffals has been v*ush-like for a while now, but if you look at her twitter feed of the past 2 weeks, it's very bad. She befriended Destiny. She has a tweet that says like "I use to be a tankie and tankies support genocide. Israel is doing genocide now, but have you condemned tankies?" She's been harassing Second Thought about his comments against Israel to the extent that he blocked her. Now it appears that she is going after Hasan next, possibly trying to get him banned from twitch for his Palestine fundraiser.

A few months ago she had made like a 20-minute video on why she's allowed to say the r-slur. She's done more weird stuff before that too. Even when she was being harassed by k*f*, Hasan seemed very reluctant to mention Keffals on his stream. I think maybe Hasan knew Keffals was a fake leftist even back then.

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

funny-clown-hammer but yassified?

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Yeah howabout we not genocide anyone? But assuming we have to pick one I would still choose to support Palestine because it's the right thing to do.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

keffals shut the fuck up challenge

[–] windowlicker@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

i am trans. but i am also a communist, and i place anti-imperialism and anti-capitalism as the most important battles that must be won for the liberation of all humanity, and then also my community. for that reason, i stand always with the anti-imperialist cause of palestinian liberation unequivocally. anyone who doesn't see things this way is not my comrade.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

To my knowledge, this is not the "real" bad empanada. He posted on YouTube a month or two back that he has no presence on twitter anymore. If he posted differently or said differently then alright. Otherwise, assuming this is someone pretending for whatever weird reason (he's had a ton of pretenders ranging from basically the same as him to Nazis)

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

cocaine is such an ego drug, shuts down your empathy

[–] ultraviolet@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

the streamer class will be liquidated

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who is saying "but what about the US trans genocide" when talking about the Palestinian genocide? No really, I need to see receipts.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

keffals is doing it in the top half of the image

[–] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is Keffals doing that though? I don't see the context to support that claim. If Keffals was responding to an original post about Palestinian genocide, I could see it, but a statement on its own may or may not being doing whataboutism. There isn't enough context to determine what's going on here.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Is Keffals doing that though?

yes

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[–] EpicKebabEater@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dug through Keffals' Twitter and this is part of a rant about how she's justified for going after "tankies" while the Palestine situation happens. She didn't make a thread so maybe it genuinely wasn't her intention but it looks like she started raging about Second Thought's takes on Israel, then started raging about people who don't want to vote Dem in the general elections because of the recent events. On Palestine itself she seems to be playing "Both sides bad". https://nitter.net/keffals?cursor=DAABCgABF-EP6bp__-kKAAIX3ObaypbAtAgAAwAAAAIAAA

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're all over reddit-logo

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The virgin lib white queer: nooooooooo we have to support genocide abroad or else we'll get genocided at home!

The chad leftist poc* queer: even if it brings genocide down on us at home, we must stand in solidarity against the victims of the empire and resist genocide abroad. If the Enemy tries to genocide us here for it, let them try -- we will fight them to the last.

*and to their credit a bunch of queer conrades who happen to be lowercase w white, who've rejected capital W Whiteness.

[–] dustcommie@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This reminds me of the famous "paper tiger" Strong-Mao interview I recently read(short read btw, like a page or two and honestly lots of parallels to the current Palestine/Israel+USA can be made).

If the "paper tiger" concept is useful and general, which I am not sure it is tbh, certainly dangling the threat of removing/lessening trans rights (of imperial core people) at the expense of many thousands of Palestinians lives is a type of "paper tiger" pointed inward(Mao's case seems way more dire, one of the poorest most exploited countries in a war with US supporting one side and the fear of nuclear weapons is in the air... huh sounds a little like Palestine/Israel). Trans rights are not given by a couple of politicians, they are decided and fought for by the people as pretty much all rights have. People should be a little more brave, and not be put into a box of "we got to vote blue or else our rights" and maybe that isn't the way to get trans rights and maybe we can get both trans rights and not genocide Palestinians at the same time...

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If anybody in the US, I pray that you vote blue in local/state elections. National, I really don't care, they can all be as equally as shitty. However, I am *barely *able to hold custody because I'm trans and in a Republican state. Yeah, America is starting to enter straight Nazi territory. But the Republicans are unapologetic fascists. I don't particularly care about federal elections, they are jokes. But I could not look my nephew in the eye and tell him I didn't vote dem to keep him in my home because "republicans are just as evil" while him and I literally have to live the consequences of the local Republicans weighing down on us every day. It's a minor fight I ultimately have no real weight in, but I'd still rather put all my weight forward for these kids.

Edit: Wanna say I'm not anti anti-electoralism. There were many ways on foreign policy that Trump was objectively better than Biden. On one hand, Trump's crazy brand of right wing isn't particularly special. However, within the rest of America it breeds more people who want to be like him. Normal America won't suffer too much under modern republicans, but we're seeing trans and queer people not just being discriminated against, but fully targeted within these far right states under Trump era republicans. I'm willing to put myself on the line for anything, I'm willing to put my entire next 10 years on pause to adopt a child who needed me this week. However, I also have an autistic (non-verbal, in life skills classes, the likelihood of him not depending on his parents is very low) 7 year old who can't have major shifts in his schedule for stability reasons. Maybe it is selfish, but I'm willing to read about stuff that will provide positive change to his life and stop reading after that, and just support him before there's anything whispering in my ear over it. I'll keep digging on other things for months, but if it's going to change the life of someone that I can't expect to understand the change, I'll just leave it there and support my little guy. I truly think 99.9 percent of parents would feel the same way.

I'll explain literally anything that I think they're able to handle in adult words. My foster son's mom just got arrested for meth and crossing state lines while out on bond. At BEST, she's gonna get a year of prison and 3+ years of probation. I explained that to my foster kiddo, just telling him that his Mom is going to be in prison/time out for a long but, but she'll have to take drug tests very often so she'll probably be sober for a while when she comes out. He understood that and started smiling and giggling because he knows he loves his mom when she's not on every drug she can get. I think these two stories properly sum up exactly why I value stability so much. I'd be more than willing to participate in a revolution or even a shitty revolt that went no where. But I would need to be 1000 percent sure that it would provide some stability to the children I care for, who have already seen so much instability within their lives. If it were just me, I would just lean into my beliefs 100 percent and eat the consequences. But as a parent? I'm willing to start trading quite a bit, more than I even should be able to trade, to guarantee his stability. Maybe my decisions are right, maybe they aren't. But that's up to my children decide when they grow up to be adults, not me.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This really comes down to individual people in local offices and regional politics in general. For instance every single local democrat in my area runs on a platform of being "tough on crime." They're also always talking about diverting public funds into subsidies for tech companies to lure silicon valley investors. They get away with it since it's a Democrat stronghold city and the courts are all democrats.

But democrats in deep republican areas tend to be better

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, wanna make it clear that I'm not disrespecting people that have the logical choice of not voting. You're perfectly fine in not voting if it truly makes no tangible difference.

I just live in Missouri. For reference, our schools have started doing 4 day school weeks because of funding cuts, but also won't increase cigarette pack tax whatsoever, even if it means 5 days of school a week. Cheapest smokes in the nation at least! I live in an area where Republican brainworms have gone beyond brainworms, and have gone into destroying the people around them.

I live in an area where the difference between democrat and republican is funding schools or not funding schools (among many other issues, but that's the biggest domestic issue). I'm okay with people not voting for president, that's perfectly okay because both candidates are just as awful in different ways. But when the comparison is Claire McCaskill (averagely corrupt dem) vs Todd Aiken (guy who said that women's bodies had a biological reaction to stop r*** to counter abortion and DNA evidence), I do genuinely look down on people who don't participate in keeping their small area of home safe through the few means we're given. Even Missouri people picked McCaskill because they couldn't stand the idea of such a disgusting person being in office. In deep Republican areas, people should 100 percent be voting Dem. In some states, its literally the difference between trans parents being abusive for exposing their children to the "contagion" and being able to keep your children without being harassed. The difference between r*** victims being considered liars because they got pregnant from it, against being able to get some justice. A real example, the difference between paying MILLIONS of dollars to keep trans kids out of their schools vs just letting them use the bathrooms.

I don't hold any love for the Democrats. I just live in a situation where they often have a gun to my head, so I'd rather a Democrat be the head of the school board than the crazy ass Qanon Republican Evangelical. Even if they're awful, they're not going to be malicious. They're not going to consciously try to make my children's life worse.

Local and State elections are the only form of electoralism worth anything. But they're the little power some of us have in truly hopeless situations

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

100 percent agreed. Local politics will always be the more important elections you should vote for if you live in a bigger country. That's where the real changes to your living situations can be felt as opposed to the President. A lot of people overlook this and I would argue that they should show up on election day anyway so that they can vote downballot for any local elections and referendums.

The electoral process in my country is a little different, so I don't vote for the President but I do vote for the Communist party during legislative elections. Then I vote on referendums or the Communist party at the local level. We've gained some ground in the area which is always nice to see.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mayors don't decide foreign policy, so it's really a different question

[–] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't like attempts to frame oppression of various groups as opposing interests. Maybe Keffals is against Palestinian genocide, or maybe not, but without context, who knows. Bottom line, all oppression is bad, and pointing out one type of oppression doesn't detract from the other.

Of course voting between red/blue isn't the answer, both groups will continue to remain oppressed, regardless of who's in power so Keffals seems a bit misguided on that.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

She seems to be against Palestinian genocide but also refrained herself from calling Hasan Piker slurs for being a "tankie that supports Hamas." Not a good look when you're a white woman having to restrain yourself from calling a MENA man slurs.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe Keffals is against Palestinian genocide, or maybe not, but without context, who knows.

the context is keffals is a canadian anticommunist grifter who makes big streambucks in her cozy imperial core dwelling built on top of the bones of indigenous canadians

Succdem/leftist split personified except I wouldn’t associate with either of these two under any circumstance.