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It's the dunk tank.

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[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Brits pretending they'd care what a pole thinks.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Brits are anti communist, the polish voice is given a great deal of credence as such. One of the most inherently reactionary nations, true for both.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

inherently reactionary nations

so-true - there are vast reactionary sympathies there rn, so it must mean they are enemies of the proletariat!

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

You’re right, I was being wrong and a dick.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Pretty fucking sure Poland wouldn't exist if the Soviet Union hadn't fucking liberated them. What do they think Germany was gonna do? The Poles, Polish culture and so on would all have been Germanised.

The actions the USSR took preserved the very existence of a Poland that would otherwise have been totally deleted from existence by the nazis in their pursuit of Lebensraum.

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let's not forget that if the Nazis had their way then half of the Poles that currently exist would have had their grandparents murdered, and the other half would literally be serfs with German landlords.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

One thing no one can deny when I'm defending the union against nonsense slander. Especially when they try and mention Ribbentrop-Molotov the idiots.

"Oh and what's the alternative Jimbo? Oh right. A Poland fully under German control."

But they might bounce back with even stupider "The Soviets were worse!".

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

Semi-related, I made this when I was annoyed at something a couple days ago.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

Awoo over here with a better grasp at polish history than our so called "historians".

[–] Dyno@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, you can't ask that - it's whataboutism

Which, coincidentally, was originally coined in Ireland in the 70s, referring to people who defended the IRA

[–] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[–] Dyno@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago
[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Interestingly enough, Polish anticommunists claim there was absolutely no risk of Soviet intervention during the 1980-81 colour revolution.

The ones saying there was, was government and especially general Jaruzelski, later citing it as one of the main reasons of enacting the martial law.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hilariously, it's also pretty much the only positive thing that is said about Jaruzelski - he supposedly prevented a Soviet intervention.

Tbh, I'm not sure what the tanks rolling into Warsaw would have even done. The outcome would have been exactly the same as IRL, assuming the same developments in the USSR, considering the lack of real opposition to reform and compromise with the libs in the PZPR. Or maybe those people have simply been (intentionally) forgotten by history.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think PZPR would be purged so a lot of those that 8 years later betrayed would have to go. But this purge most likely wouldn't change much except particular names, considering that military didn't really had any idea of keeping power nor any idea what to do with it. And finally don't forget that thick line of Mazowiecki was a scam right from the beginning, they never kept any deals except personal omertas with those that knew too much.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Whatever the soviet union did to Poland they didn't do it enough evidently

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

Thing is, the notable thing that the USSR did against the growing opposition movement in Poland during the early 80s?

Well... nothing. Send a few concerned letters, I suppose.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Coraz więcej osób to mówi ludziska. :a-little-trolling:

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kurwa fajnie by było gdyby wjechali. 🙄

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] TranslatorBot@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

Fuck it would be cool if they got in. 🙄

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

I keep asking the pole about it and it just keeps telling me to Stop

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Just being smol uwu toast beans 😚

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Why would I ask a pole anything?