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It's the dunk tank.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 99 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lt-kitsuragi "Detective, please. I do not think you are doing a very good job at this President 'side hustle.' Just change the currency back, resign, and let's get back to the investigation."

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago

tequila-sunset

"But the dogs... they promise us further more..."

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 95 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Does this mean that we can now ask chuds "BUT WHAT ABOUT ARGENTINA!?" when they bend over for capitalism so fervently?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 90 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i kinda brought it up to a finance type guy yesterday and he said that after decades of terrible economic policy, argentina is finally on the right track, even if it's gonna hurt in the short term.

these fuckers will bend reality until it breaks before admitting that maybe people need food to eat.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"short term"

The exchange rate devaluation wouldn't have been as much of a issue if he had done it slowly and enacted price controls but noo shock therapy it is.

What does he thinks of Russia and Eastern Europe doing the same policy and failing?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 53 points 8 months ago

it'll be short for the people that die of hunger...

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They have been saying the exact same thing about the former Soviet Union for over thirty years now. Just some short term pain to correct for all the economic mismanagement of socialism. Any day now...

GDP per capita - itself a terrible measure, especially comparing socialism and capitalism - only in recent years got back up to 1991 levels in Russia. Ukraine (even before the SMO) never got back up to the Soviet level. The entire Eastern Bloc would have been better off today in GDP per capita terms if they just had barely above zero economic growth this whole time.

A whole effort post I made on the topic

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago

yeah but they're not going to know about it because their human centipede of talking points won't pass it to them

[–] scv@discuss.online 6 points 8 months ago

He has been unable to pass most of his reforms, so there's that. A better example is Menem, he caused massive damage in the 90s.

Socialism is not a bad word in Argentina, at all, so I'm hoping he will resign once he realizes he's getting nothing done.

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you guys are so stupid, look at how much money they have now

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Adding zero after zero to the economy

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He looks like a Doctor Who villain! Like the sleazy businessman whose workers keep disappearing, then it turns out he's an alien in disguise or something.

No idea why it took me so long to make that connection.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

He has very British hair

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He does look like the kind of guy who would try and strap Billie Piper into some kind of life-goo extracting machine, doesn't he?

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 8 months ago

Juice of neoliberalism

[–] driving_crooner 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but you know, this is good inflation.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (6 children)
[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

no it's like cholesterol, where some is "good" and some is "bad". you have no idea what the difference is but you think the point is to eat more eggs and less deep fried things or something

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago

Actually Existing Anarcho-Capilatlism (AEAC) in action folks

[–] gramxi@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

I can't believe communism would do this

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism is when no food.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Actually true

[–] RedArcher@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago

"Wait, no! Milei's not a REAL libertarian, he's a socialist too! Argentina's still corporatist, not capitalist! Want REAL capitalism? Just look at Medieval Iceland or England! We can TOTALLY recreate those CAPITALIST societies in the 21st century! Trus me bro!"

— Some 14-year-old AnCap edgelord on 4chan

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Any day now, it'll be a glorious ancapistan utopia! Trust me! ancaptain

[–] Juice@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Wasn't this intentional? The first thing he did was halve the value of the currency. Seems kinda goofy to dunk on someone for accomplishing what he set out to accomplish

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

When the aim is to be evil, it's always right to dunk

[–] scv@discuss.online 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No. He and his team are incompetent. He tried to rule by decree, when that failed he tried to push a huge law and when that got pushback they tried to take it back to committee without understanding it meant they were back to square one.

Even so, blaming him entirely for inflation is silly. He's only the president, and has only had a couple of months.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

blaming him entirely for inflation is silly

This is true, since he's actually the third Thatcher that God visitted upon that country.

[–] Autonomarx@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fourth no? Military dictatorship, Menem, Macri, and then Milei.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'd have to read on the argentinean junta, but if the experience there is anything like Brazil's there's only a misconception that it was 'neoliberal'. For starters, the regimes predated the washington consensus. And as it turns out, authoritarian officers aren't liberal people in any way. What the brazilian junta did was un-do or freeze social progress. If before you can see the state capitalist machine wanting to develop internal consumption, the juntas fully endorsed outright fascism and social hierarchy. 'What is good for the rich is good for the poor', rather than negotiated settlements or any sort of policy oriented towards the consumer base or unionization. Nonetheless, what was good for the rich was to keep the developmentist money spigot going, only for the rich. Privatization is a post-volcker shock, post hyperinflation political project.

It's kinda like how Bolsonaro not that long ago actually liked Hugo Cháves. The brain of latin american officers is a mush of wanting to impose strongman rule and only some of them come across having an actual ideology - leftist or otherwise.

I could be wrong though. Maybe the Argentinean junta was less statist than ours. But even so, Menem, Macri and now Milei does make for a nice aliteration does it not?

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He's simply more skilled than Pinochet and Macri at crashing the economy.

At this rate idk if anyone's going to top his ruin the country any% speedrun and I await the SummoningSalt video.

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Regardless if it was intentional, his supporters domestic and abroad thought he was going to usher in the ultimate free market, free from regulations, age of consent, and communism

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 8 months ago

Things take time, but he definitely is working towards making Argentine free to plunder by foreign capital.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Listen up commies:
Crashes the economy

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago

yeah, it is entirely intentional

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[–] boog@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

we did it, guys! we balanced the budget! and we get to build a new cathedral made out of bones with all the people we starved doing so!

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

what was that one hard drive article? man who lost everything in bitcoin wishes just a few thousand more people warned him earlier?

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

I like Pamphlets, great youtube channel. if you're on here Pamphlets keep up the good work

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Veneztina no iphone 10,000,000,000 killed

[–] onwardknave@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Needs more sickle.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

I feel bad dunking on this bc people are being hurt by this jackass and his cronies

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

socialism is an impoverishing phenomenon

Javier Milei

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

I'd call this shit "Cargo Cult Capitalism" but that would let all the other forms of capitalism off the hook of being a fucking cargo cult.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

porky sure let himself go

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Real capitalism has ~~never~~ been tried.

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