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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 160 points 7 months ago (2 children)

it's wild how the takeaway boomers have had from Kent State is that it's now their turn and they want to do it daily on every campus.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 108 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I understand that when Kent State happened there was a significant proportion of the country that approved.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 100 points 7 months ago (4 children)

A Gallup poll the following week revealed nearly 60 percent placed total blame on the students, while only 10 percent blamed the guardsmen (30 percent had no opinion). Means cites multiple uses of the phrase “They should have shot more of them [students]” and similar sentiments.

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 74 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Kent State (and Jackson State) should have been the moment every American was radicalized. Instead a majority proved their loyalty to the Great Satan.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 62 points 7 months ago

heard about kent state massacre as a kid, was in my 20s before i knew they did a second one at an HBCU ~11 days later.

amerikkka

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 56 points 7 months ago

Smash cut to David Bowie and Trent Reznor's "I'm afraid of Americans".

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 50 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Holy god, I now see why none of these assholes care about Palestinians - they think they should have just stayed in their place and accepted the harm that was happening to their people. What’s the word for that kind of mentality?

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago

What’s the word for that kind of mentality?

Genocidal. Fascist. Reactionary. Chauvinist. Imperialist. Colonialist.

Any of the above will do

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Evil. When I was a kid and blindly followed American conservatism, then liberalism, I was never able to fully buy into any of it because no matter what they say, I knew Americans - and the majority of westerners - saw me and my friends and family as subhuman to be exploited and killed. Every time I repeated some DOD talking point, there was a nagging voice in the back of my head that wanted to clarify that I didn't support any of the callous policies, but then I realized that it left me with nothing else to support because it's all callousness.

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[–] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

America has always been fascist

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[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

Most Americans weren't against the war. Most support the soldiers regardless of how they view the war. The country is simply uninterested in caring about human suffering unless it's their baby boys in uniform, and only nominally because they can't even bothered to do anything to help imperialists when they come home.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 53 points 7 months ago

Isn’t that how boomers are with everything? We had to go through it, you should be forced through it too! The ones complaining about student loan forgiveness and believing you should be able to raise a family on minimum wage.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 119 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's nauseating how much human rights rhetoric is used to prop up the violence of capitalism. I know this is an absolutely tepid point to make on hexbear.net but like... fuck, it's just gross

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 97 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No you're 100% the naked hipocrisy and selfish cruelty of it never stops being revolting. I think half the reason we all shitpost so much is we're essentially hiding in absurdity because trying to raw-dog this society after you've seen the rot behind the mask is too maddening.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think half the reason we all shitpost so much is we're essentially hiding in absurdity because trying to raw-dog this society after you've seen the rot behind the mask is too maddening.

you hit the nail on the head. i have to engage with the global news through shitposting because i don't have the emotional fortitude to take it head on. Frankly, I'd be concerned if someone did have the emotional strength to take it all at face value

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[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago

So true like I can't go up to people and say "fuck human rights" because they'll think I'm the one who wants to murder a bunch of college students. Fucking wild.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 74 points 7 months ago

"Now let's send in some jack-booted thugs to kill some kids for the grievous sin of thinking we shouldn't be killing kids. That way they'll finally shut up and we can get back to sending unlimited munitions to Israel, so they can continue killing kids too (we're going to anyway, but I don't want it to be such a downer all the time). And may God have mercy on your child-hating soul if you even think about impeding this!

...

We're the, uh, good guys by the way."

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 71 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The word "antisemitism" has lost all meaning.

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (7 children)

It has not, and that's a bad path to go down to even suggest so.

[–] assyrian@hexbear.net 76 points 7 months ago

it's not exactly a controversial or very original point to say that the meaning of antisemitism has been seriously trivialized, given how often it's been used recently to mean justifiable criticism of israel

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Israel has said flat out that it uses antisemitism accusations as a means to stifle criticism. Have you not seen the news since Oct. 7th? We have zionists swearing up and down that "from the river to the sea" is antisemitic for christ's sake. It's totally trivialized the word and given cover to actual antisemites, I'm talking real neo-nazis to spread hatred, it's totally backfired.

[–] assyrian@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 48 points 7 months ago

The ADL is so fucking craven and cowardly with it's shit. The head of it was gloating the other day on CNN over Asna Tabassum getting stopped from speaking.

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

that doesn't mean that the word antisemitism has no meaning or that antisemitism isn't a real and present factor.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 7 months ago

The concept is very real, and absolutely a pressing problem.

The word becomes less and less meaningful the more zionists use it to justify blowing children to smitherines.

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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

it has when used by anyone besides leftists. Center and right cannot distinguish between anti-zionism and anti-semitism so they cannot be trusted when they cry wolf.

[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

it has when zionists use the term

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago (28 children)

Both can essentially be the case.

In media especially, the popular use and meaning of antisemitism has been so thoroughly degraded and twisted that it's not only largely useless, but I think should actually be a watchword for 'more investigation of this claim is needed'.

But that doesn't mean that the original and accurate meaning and the thing it actually describes does not exist or is not a problem, or that we should accept it's shameless misuse and attempted perversion.

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

Every liberal is a fascist.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nothing I can say about John Podhoretz would be more insulting than this byline cartoon of him

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago (13 children)

isn't this guy in eastern europe being gay on the DL because his wife divorced him? pretty sure israel would disown him

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

Podhoretz is the nepobaby who writes long affronted articles about how the staff at wanky bistros only mildly tolerated his abuse rather than jerking him off while he yelled at them.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is the guy who's the son of the longtime editor of Commentary magazine and is himself the current editor of Commentary.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

That's not podhoretz, he's the treat monster.

You're thinking of Rod Dreher.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

I thought this was the Dry Bones guy

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[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

my god the tearful self flagellation

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 7 months ago

I got no quarrel with Jewish kids. When I was out in the sticks, it was actually Jewish kids who got between me and the klan-borne crackers. It's Zionist kids that I don't give the first fuck about; and I hope they're violently shamed into abandoning the genocide their elders carry out.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Worlds biggest baby throws a tantrum. More news at 11

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