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He's replying to a deleted post but he quotes himself in another thread.

https://bsky.app/profile/paulcrider.liberalcurrents.com/post/3kshh7jqylb2v

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 76 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would prefer to agitate under Trump as that's apparently the only thing that motivates libs to take even the smallest of actions.

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the libs were ferocious (by lib standards) 2016-2020

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure but all of that energy was directed at Russia

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eh, the 2020 bail funds were well funded at least

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

So the anarcho-radlibs could get out of jail after spraying “fuck drumpf”. Inspiring

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

The very next line of the song starts with:

You can choose from phantom fears...

TRUMP!

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I'm trying hard not to be a Bluesky reply guy but it's still very tempting to reply to the poster with that.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the current conditions, agitators are being brutally assaulted, silenced, and killed pretty much all over the country. So I would have to say that I actually don't want to continue to agitate in the current conditions, thank you.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

All hiding and lurking ends up doing is lowering the bar of what's considered agitation, do what you can.

Not much of a choice when all options are decided for you, two sides of the same coin, dictatorship of the bourgeois and all that.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago (4 children)

About half of the American electorate does not vote, but you don't see these nerds doorknocking or other basic organizing. It's incredibly telling that these people will viciously attack others online, but are complete goldfish ouside where the touch-grass grows. It is so much easier to scold than pound pavement.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That's what pisses me off about the vote evangelists that come in and pester us. Why argue with people commited to an ideology that have already made a decision based on their knowledge of the situation and political beliefs? Especially when we're a small minority compared to the vast majority like near 200 million who aren't voting (and therefore voting for Trump obviously)

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

200 million who aren't voting (and therefore voting for Trump obviously)

Matty - in this thread - furiously taking notes for his next book Trumpism 2024: 1 Billion Votes.

[–] WELCOMETHRILLHO@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Conservatives read garbage like The Turner Diaries and get their ideology from that, Leftists read the broad spectrum of theory and get their ideology from that. Liberals read Harry Potter and have no ideology.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

They're too comfy to ever get jobs as field organizers. Organizers are under paid, work 6-7 day schedules, and the employment is temporary at best.

I started losing my "faith" in the Dems after taking one of those jobs during a desperate stretch of unemployment. Worst job ever.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

They're way more upset there's people calling out their hypocrisy than people not voting.

They don't give a shit about winning but maintaining the smug moral high ground is non negotiable.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That’s funny to think about. I’ve re-franchised quite a few formerly disenfranchised felons by explaining that laws changed and they can vote now and helping them learn how it goes. I never thought about the fact that these people care more about attacking other voters than doing the same. I guess if you’re “too good” to hang with leftists, you’re probably “too good” to hang with felons, but I’m a criminal fuck up too, I don’t really feel comfortable around people without records, so it’s easy for me.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The best these lobs can imagine is voting for your "prefered enemy." Free country by the way, unlike bad country 1984 tiny man uighur

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So love me, love me, love me, I'm a lob-a-lob

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

I just assumed it was a typical british insult

[–] WELCOMETHRILLHO@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This person does not speak for all RUSH fans

[–] RION@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I love late 1970s early 80s Rush. I think "Permanent Waves (1980)" and "Moving Pictures (1981)" are great albums.

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

my favorite rush narrative is when the elder race returned from the stars and voted the temples of syrinx down

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Mine was when the Snow Dog voted By-Tor back to hell

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

Yeah I don’t think anyone who’s not voting or voting third party thinks they haven’t made a choice. Once again they’re incapable of seeing themselves as anything other than “The Adults in the Room.”

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago
[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Youre right I did make a choice.

I made the choice that not supporting genocide was worth way more than any promise a liberal has tried to make and that's before the completely reasonable assumption that all the liberals promises are completely worthless.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

How I sleep at night knowing I made the choice not to endorse genocide:

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They listen to Rush as well? Double cringe.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sadness some of us just like to get stoned and listen to a 20 minute bass solo

Their randian takes are super cringe though I'll give you that

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

rude

just because Neil Peart was a bozo doesn't mean i'm not jammin

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[–] M68040@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would posit that whether an action is good or bad is heavily altered by a “spin” factor, namely whether or not one can argue about it and how effective it is. My name is Gyro Zepelli

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

A comment that lives in my head as a textual earworm is...

Liberals don't want to win elections. They want to win arguments.

[–] WELCOMETHRILLHO@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And crucially, they can only imagine winning an argument in good faith against a good faith opponent, without fundamentally changing the politics of their opponent outside of this one argument. Republicans imagine the mass executions of democrats, while democrats imagine one Republican doing the right thing and voting on some milquetoast reform bill.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lin-Manuel Miranda should turn "Good, Noble Republicans" into a play. Libs can't get enough of that shit.

Mr. Surburbia - the hero - breaks into a rap with a chorus backup.

Good, Noble Republicans are out there (They're out there, y'all! They are!)
Good, Noble Republicans are out there (They're out there, y'all! They are!)
Good, Noble Republicans are out there (They're out there, y'all! They are!)

Spoken: "Who's that I see?!" From stage right Mike the Neighbor enters. The applause is loud there are even some whomps. He's a fan fave. He gets right down to it.

Just 'cause I'm in the G-O-P - liberals - they won't talk to me!..

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

I just want lower taxes, G. Nothing racist about my "All Lives Matter" tee

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

hst-gun stop right now, this is not a request

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Thank the police comin' straight from the sub-burbs
A young con got it good 'cause I'm white
But not the other color, so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority
Eff that shit, 'cause they ain't the one
For bad police officers with a badge and a gun
To be beating them and throwing in jail
They can go toe-to-toe in the middle of a cell
Effin' with them 'cause they're a teenager
With a little bit a gold and a sneaker
Searchin' their car, lookin' for the product
Thinkin' every black guy is sellin' narcotics
They'd rather see them in the pen
Than them and Lorenzo rollin' in a Benz-o
Beat a POC out of shape
And when dey finished - bring the yellow tape

Okay, now that I have your kind attention let's talk about realistic police reform. We can do this! Oh, right - I forgot! Oops! Thank you to rights holders of the song Eff tha Police for granting us usage permission. Where was I?...

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Later Ned Neolib (the actor who plays Mike the Neighbor) posted a 1,000 word defense of "dey". However - the next day the producers said "We appreciate everything Ned Neolib has brought to the play but he is no longer in the cast."

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[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Fuckin Judeo-Christians. Have you considered the bad karma you get from voting someone actively committing a genocide? smuglord

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

A new comment in the thread

Alito and Thomas could very well die or retire in the next 5 years. An opportunity for the first dem court since 1974, or you can get two Leonard Leo endorsed 40 year olds to replace them. Basically, there is an opportunity to pack the courts at all levels for either winner. Or punish Biden...

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These people can't conceive of any solutions that aren't defined in the narrow confines of the Constitution. How have none of these people considered maybe the Constitution itself is the problem here?

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

The Supreme Court was decent for maybe 30-40 years out of ~230, and has been bad for the last 30, and the conservative project to pack the judiciary with dead-eyed reactionaries reached maturity a decade ago...

But give us five more years and maybe we'll turn this around!

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they could've packed the fucking court two years ago or several more years ago under obama.

they don't want to pack the court and whoever you're quoting is a rube

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Exactly, Obungler bungled it all and they never blame him

Edit: you know what? I take part of that back, he didn't bungle it because he didn't even try in the first place

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

the next supreme court justice is going to be a raging conservative whether tom cotton or jesus christ is the president.

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

My reaction to this post:

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i can be a moral choice not to vote or to vote but skip over a race. he uses "moral cost" to imply a constant negative value when the value could be negative or positive. more like a moral consequence which can swing either way depending on your set of moral conditions

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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

"You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose Freewill"

It is really ironic that he picked a song about rejecting religion and dogma to promote the idea of religious dogma in the form of politics. Fucking dunce.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

"It's better not to think about what we do, just that we do it."

This sort of stuff could practically be the mantra of liberals.

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago
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