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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 56 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

I've gotta increase the rocks in my diet

[-] booty@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

AI trained on reddit-logo spits out racist conspiracy theories, what a surprise

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

dudes (eat) rock

[-] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago

AI trained off Redditors sounds like a terrible idea.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's so funny cause reddit is literally just 90% of redditors arrogantly talking about something they know nothing about, being completely wrong, but everybody believes them because redditors have circlejerked themselves into believing they're really smart

of course, google scientists have no idea that the data from reddit is useless for training their models because they themselves are all also redditors

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Indiscriminately pulling from all subs, instead of identifying subs like /r/askscience, /r/science, and /r/askhistorians. Instead they are pulling from askreddit and meme subs.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Those subs you listed are just as prone to overconfident bullshit ime

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

They do have some moderation and the top comments used to require source citations or flair/approved posters.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago

Bots talking to bots, Dune was prophecy

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

The Last Ringbearer but for Dune and it's about how the thinking machines did nothing wrong and Serena Butler was a 5g chemtrails antivaxxer

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Frank Dune clearly implies that Butlerian Jihad was the root of all troubles and thing changing entire setting into tragedy. Only Brian by introducing Omnius and shit turned it into very mundane physical survival fight against Skynet nr 1876876, and even in Brian books it was said multiple times that BJ went way too far.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Dune's backstory is that they made bots in the past but the bots tried to kill all humans ( waow-based ) so that's why there are mentats and guild navigators because they don't have any computer smarter than a toaster left.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Dune robots didn't try to kill people.

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."

[-] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

One robot got curious and killed one baby, one time, and everybody got bent out of shape about it.

I am not a bot

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's more that humans became overly reliant on their machines and there was almost a religious movement to overthrow that reliance. Later books retconned this into classic ai killbots

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Reddit bots triggering the Butlarian Jihad is 100% canon

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

We’ll, it did

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Frank Dune is ambiguous but it's implied that the bulter jihad was a social movement against automation and ai.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, exactly but it ended up going WAY too far creating slavery-feudal-capitalist hybrid hellhole with no development and complemental ubermensch sects. Brian going way overboard with the gorefest in 1st book of Butlerian jihad trilogy is exactly because it needed to be even worse than what humanity done to itself.

I always say that Dune is in fact a Greek tragedy in prose, something not even hidden at all just by the protagonist name.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I never interpreted the Butlerian Jihad as being the cause of everything being shit. Admittedly I didn't read the later (Frank) books, but my understanding was that the spice was always needed for interstellar travel and it was the spice monopoly that forced everything in to stasis, made the Frefeluchs system possible, made the dominance of the Emperor and the LANSRAAD possible. No one planet could challenge the system because every other planet could embargo them and without spice or navigators they were stuck in their planetary system. As long the faction of the LANSRAAD + Emperor that supported the status quo was allied with the Spacing Guild no rebellion or meaningful change was possible. Even a rift in the Spacing Guild couldn't necessarily do it as you'd still have to take and hold Arrakis. The stasis came from the universal economic dependence on Arrakis, the spice, and the spacing guild. Even in the worst case of rebellion the rebelling worlds could be contained by embargo indefinitely.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

but my understanding was that the spice was always needed for interstellar travel

No. Here is the timeline of Frank Dune (that is, without Encyclopedia and Brian). Spice properties was discovered during the Shakkad the Wise reign during the Old Empire (pre-Butlerian Jihad), so the vast interstellar polity already existed. And while it might theoretically be possible without FTL due to long timescale (for example Dune is 300 light years from Earth so 6000 years would be enough for Muadru to arrive), look at the timescale of Zensunni pilgrimage which happened before discovering spice and which took only 80 years through multiple star systems. Meaning even exiles and slaves had access to FTL in some form. Though of course it was probably method slower than instanteous teleportation using holtzmann drive, and most likely involving extensive computerisation. Also there were 2 space migrations in barely 200 years happening at the beginning and it was enough to apparently spread quite much since Jews needed to hide after that period implying that a lot of planets were already settled in 200 years.

it was the spice monopoly that forced everything in to stasis, made the Frefeluchs system possible, made the dominance of the Emperor and the LANSRAAD possible

Not specified, but the guild monopoly was the consequence of jihad, since banning of computers made FTL crazily risky and basically only the navigators could do it safely. Brian Dune makes creation of the Guild explicitly consequence and last step of building of the Great Convention status quo, when the Venport Holdings corporation forces were destroyed by the Empire and Butlerians, and forced to conform to new order.

The stasis came from the universal economic dependence on Arrakis, the spice, and the spacing guild. Even in the worst case of rebellion the rebelling worlds could be contained by embargo indefinitely.

Yes but all this was the consequence of outlawing technology, because it forced complete dependence on spice for FTL. Note how after Leto II death scattering loosen the Jihad contraints and it leds to noticeable inprovement in overall humanity condition in mere 1500 years, in Heretics and Chapterhouse there is a lot more technology mentioned (including even things like cybernetics!) than in the previous books. In GEoD there is openly stated than nearly entire humanity is reduced to the level of subsistence farming (this is btw point when something don't compute hard since how the hell isolated subsistence farmeres would even experience empire-wide famine or construct spaceships but it was never mentioned, even Bene Gesserit with their memories never mentioned anything about the times except it was horror).

(I mean the real reason for banning tech from Dune is to remove technobabble which cause most books to be obsolete and funny in two decades, especially that Dune do contains few examples of really ridiculous fantasy tech, like teleporting huge ships or low tech and low energy antigravity)

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Cool! Thank you for sharing, I didn't know most of this! rat-salute-2

I mean the real reason for banning tech from Dune is to remove technobabble

I'd never even considered this and it is a brilliant move on Herbert's part. I was up last night trying to think how to describe high-tech body armor in a cyberpunk setting and idea after idea was bouncing off. Kevlar and other fibers can't stop rifles, ceramic seems too mundane now that it's standard issue, but where can you go from advanced composite materials without getting in to energy shields? I was stumped, couldn't think of anything that sounded sufficiently cool, while being grounded, while being setting appropriate.

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

Im so glad I started so many comments on reddit with shit like listen here, you disingenuous little removed, you're welcome

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fucking morons.

So do Reddit users get a cut of that, considering it's their words they're selling?

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

This is the only way to get paid to shitpost since the Chinese government nor George Soros is ever going to cut me a check.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

We need Alibaba to pay us for our posts.

[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

I assume they did some filtering of leftie content, but I had some years of effort posting on that shithole

[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Imagine paying $60 million to train on my Goro Majima shitposts

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Wowee, gonna end up with more racist ai

[-] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

they're clearly joking

Idk, sounds like something a reddit-logo would seriously do

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Big Minotaur Milkers

Uhh someone call volcel-police we've got a live one here

[-] VOLCEL_POLICE@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

volcel-police

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

you'll never take me alive coppers

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

Holy shit hey really are training chatbots on reddit vomit. Inshallah it includes all of my bullshit. I am proud to contribute to the future of humanitt

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Dungeon Meshi reference 😆

[-] aphir@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Crazy how google just spent an unimaginable amount of money on their google search replacement, just for it to relay information from reddit-logo users and tell you to eat rocks and glue.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

You could have paid 60 mil to have researches collate and write accurate information for the next 5 years, and avoided this dogshit. LOL.

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago
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