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[-] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 year ago

In polite company, defending slavery is considered a major character flaw.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

~~In polite company,~~ defending slavery is considered a major character flaw.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

I would snarkily reply that that was the joke, but since federation you know, we shouldn't risk it, who knows what might happen

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Damn if he's so smart why'd he join the losing side, and then lose?

Lee and every member of the southern aristocracy should have been executed.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

and their lands redistributed to their former slaves

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

deganerate

Bullhorn dogwhistle.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Doghorn? Bullwhistle?

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

lol, really is a shame West Point didn't have courses on not being a racist, slavery-defending piece of shit then isn't it?

[-] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 year ago

General Grant was not an alcoholic. He drank missing his wife. He never drank while in battle. That's one of many slanders of the Lost Cause that victimizes the South as well as proposes the South to be superior in many aspects.

Grant was by far the better general. While Lee fought a mostly defensive Virginia campaign, Grant was out completing the North's military objectives in aggressive, modern strategies. His rally and subsequent victory at Shiloh, despite his mistakes. His Vicksburg Campaign that is still studied to this day. Grant's ability to fight the war that Lee could not win when Grant finally took over the army of the Potomac and hounded Lee, when previous generals would turn, until he had nothing but a ragged army.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

He never drank while in battle

damn fr? that sucks, it'd be fucking hilarious if he'd whupped the confederates like he did while drunk

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

I mean, if Ulysses S. Grant had a problem, it was that he had no clue how to run a country, but that's every single president

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

He sucked at administering the state but his political priorities were some of the best of any US president

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.one 37 points 1 year ago

"unimpeachable character" idk the slaves he was fighting to keep probably had a different take on his character

[-] VHS@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

literally who cares about graduating top of the class? pure cope. grant did way the hell better where it actually counts

[-] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

stupidpol my racist general was better at homework

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Same energy as a twenty-something year old bragging about their SAT scores.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember Matt Christman on radio war nerd talking about how all the westpoint grads in the American Civil War were hobbled by their education and were unable to think outside the box strategically, and how guys like Willlich (the German Communist general) was able to shake up the war by bringing over different tactics. He might have been overstating his case a little, but still. It is interesting when people make appeals to shit like "graduated with good marks at the nepotism factory"

[-] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Maybe they should have settled their differences in the octagon then? Can't change history.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

grant needed none of that fancy book learnin' to kick the shit out of lee

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

i say with absolute certainty the commander and president of the Union could've beaten the shit outta their confederate counterpart barehands

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

confederate defenders stop pretending "defending his home state" is a meaningful distinction from "defending the institution of slavery"

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Is this what people mean when they say the south had "better generals"?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Yeah and its mostly bullshit. I think part of why some of the northern generals appear worse is because many of them were ideologically against following up victories and capturing the confederate capital. MacClellan the first Commander of the Army of the Potomac was very against it and if I'm remembering correctly ran for election against Lincoln because of their disagreements over the war. But, there were also these supposedly "better" Southern generals who just charged soldiers into meetgrinders overcamd over for no reason, so it doesn't hold up anyway

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

lmao the person in the replies posting the Tony Snell stat line

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