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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT GET A VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ELECT A SENILE PRESIDENT THIS CYCLE (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago by Zuzak@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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That said, I voted for him in the last election, and I will again out of harm reduction. He has improved on policy, but l even if he didn’t, the American people do not get a vote on whether or not to elect a senile President this cycle.

You can have any President you like, as long as he’s senile. If you vote, we’ll get a senile President. If you don’t, we’ll get a senile President.

The question is whether you want senile and gleefully cruel®, or just senile(D). I’ll take just senile.

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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The choices are not cruel vs senile, they're:

whywhywhywhywhy child emperor controlled by obama-drone advisors

a-little-trolling child emperor controlled by mission-accomplished advisors

maybe-later-honey healthcare isn't on the table this election General dynamics needs more money to get ukranians and palestinians vaporized

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Corporate needs you to find the difference between these advisors same-picture

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago

It's amazing that these fuckos haven't picked up on Biden's gleeful cruelty. It has been on display his entire career. In the 2020 campaign he was threatening voters to their faces and sneering at them when they told him they wanted to vote for him but were worried about something he didn't care about.

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

One of them linked the Wikipedia article about Perot's campaign and I learned something new:

Exit polls revealed that 35% of voters would have voted for Perot if they believed he could win. Contemporary analysis reveals that Perot could have won the election if the polls prior to the election had shown the candidate with a larger share, preventing the wasted vote mindset. Notably, had Perot won that potential 35% of the popular vote, he would have carried 32 states with 319 electoral votes, more than enough to win the presidency.

That is so wild to me, I had no idea he had been that successful and that it was only Wasted Vote Mindset that stopped him.

It reminds me that there was a Perot bumper sticker on the telephone pole outside my childhood home:

Ross Will Win
WITH YOUR VOTE!

[-] context@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

it was only Wasted Vote Mindset that stopped him

and a concerted media campaign to fabricate that consensus mindset. what a wacky election, i can't imagine a perot presidency. bush sr had the full backing of the cia, of course, and clinton was clearly acceptable, but perot was against the gulf war and what eventually became the rules based order we find ourselves in. he was too much of a liability to imperial ambitions, i think they would have pulled additional shenanigans to prevent him from being elected.

but this election could be wackier. what happens when enough people think their vote is wasted no matter what?

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

I honestly think that Perot (whose politics outside of his anti-war stance are just as idiotic and self-serving as every other politicians) gave the DNC and the RNC enough of a scare to lock everything down and ensure that a third party would never even taste national election success again.

[-] context@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

oh he was a tool of capital through and through, for sure

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's these useful idiots that prevent a 3rd party from being viable continuing to give life support and consent to existing hellworld.

We need to do the same thing over and over really expect nothing fundemental to change. Way to hold the genocidal line fuckers.

[-] context@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

at this point i won't be too surprised if a third party candidate ends up winning. suddenly it feels like it's going to be a few decades until november, so a lot could happen.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They're talking about America, not a sensible country.

[-] context@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

oh i'm certainly not talking about a sensible outcome here

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Vermin Supreme, tear down this wall!

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So they don't think that financing a genocide qualify as being "gleefully cruel"? What an interesting opinion .

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm sorry but anyone that actually watched the debate could see Trump had a working brain and Biden did not. Trying to claim that one is as senile as the other is going to get you laughed at. People saw with their eyes, and they will see a second time with their eyes if Biden doesn't run from the second debate.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 17 points 4 months ago

Trump doesn't even have a working brain. It's just Biden is so absolutely gone that he makes Trump look healthy in comparison. Trump has been rambling absolute nonsense and braging about all the dementia tests he has taken for the past decade.

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

Neither of them could draw a clock, but only one has a tolerance for meth

[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

You'd think people would be accusing us of wanting a senile president. After all, is it not better for the rest of the world if the president of the great satan can't remember what he was talking about 10 minutes ago?

Or is it an admission that who the president is doesn't actually fucking matter if Biden can still be elected?

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

Or is it an admission that who the president is doesn't actually fucking matter if Biden can still be elected?

I've legitimately seen people say this as a reason to vote for Biden, even someone I know irl. I don't even know how to respond to it, like, any semblance of democracy is just completely dead at that point.

[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

I've legitimately seen people say this as a reason to vote for Biden

Yeah that's kind of a bizarre take to have because it's explicitly saying you'd prefer Biden's unelected gang of advisors over Trump's unelected gang of advisors. Maybe the president the individual can be convinced to support good things every once in a while if enough people get him on a good mood on a topic he has an emotional connection to. But you certainly can't push the executive branch as a whole in any way shape or form.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

Love all the "it doesn't matter if he's senile!!" cope

Alexa, what is "the imperial presidency"

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Your insolence will be reported to Lord Bezos. Bow down before Him." — Alexa, probably

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Cowards

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

once there were democrats in the streams in the mountains

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

Vote so it doesn't get [worse] sweetie so-far

[-] screwthisdumbcrap@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

Fucking evergreen

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

disgost ugh, its just so servile

[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago

Boy do I love it when people give me excuses to vote 3p.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

I look forward to continued lectures from Americans about which countries are democratic and which are authoritarian

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

your "democracy" is a sham and here's why | halim alrah

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

"Why are you taking a bath?"

"I'm not."

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