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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by MiraculousMM@hexbear.net to c/electoralism@hexbear.net

I figure I'll vote PSL again like I did last time since they seem to be among the most principled leftist parties we have in this hellscape. I've seen a lot of support for Jill Stein but iirc she has some very weird reactionary conspiracy-brained views. How we feeling? Is supreme running this time around?

edit: to be clear I assume most of the based parties will not be on the ballot in most states, I've written in my picks before and I'll do it again KKKopmala knifecat

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[-] CaliforniaSpectre@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago
[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

I am writing in guaido

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

I was honestly leaning toward voting for Kamala after the Walz pick but after that reichy ass convention and declaring their bottomless well of support for the zionist entity in no uncertain terms, it’s back to voting PSL in a swing state for me

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was waiting for discussions with the Uncommitted project to conclude. I’d been saying I’d vote for Kamala if she fully supported an arms embargo. And of course there was wishy washy messaging that she was considering it. But yeah the DNC speech made it clear that she’ll be continuing the Democrats’ fun little trick of doing Republican border policy and funding genocide in Palestine.

surprised-pika, right?

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think PSL is gonna make it on the ballot in my state, so im trying to decide between Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Obvs for local shit it different but those are my presidential picks. Stalin is really irking me these days cause he just HAD to stop at Berlin :eye-roll:

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

Oh and ask to why, because none of the parties on my states ballot seem to represent my interests.

[-] ProjectCyberSin@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago
[-] CDommunist@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

If no good parties are on the ballot I will write in hillary-contempt with RGB as VP

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Rom@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Ruth Green Blue

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's HER turn maybe-later-kiddo

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

I'm planning to vote green because they're more likely than PSL to hit a high enough vote count that people actually report on it, which is the most I can expect from my presidential vote.

[-] puff@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's frustrating to me that third parties with mutual interests e.g. Palestine don't form coalitions like the left did in France this last election. Yes, the left coalition in France has its problems, but they kept the far right and the liberal party away from outright power which is pretty astonishing. A Green/PSL/Other minor parties ticket dubbed 'Palestine' or 'Workers' or similar would at least stand a better chance of getting on the ballot in the first place, a threshold almost none of these parties are able to overcome.

[-] IronJoe1984@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

The owner of the local game store in my area is a green. So I have got to personally meet Dr.Stein, Ralph Nader, and Howie Hawkins. So I tend to vote green. However New York made it where parties have to cross a voting threshold in elections in order to remain on the ballot. This has made it so I have to vote green in every election.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

I was assured Joe Biden was the only one who could beat Trump and save democracy. So I'm Still With Him.

[-] jimmyjohnsandwichsix@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

If psl is on my ballot I’ll vote for them, but if not I might vote green or just not vote at all idk I’ve given up lmao

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

Writing in Bernie just to piss off multiple groups at once.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

just don't vote for kamala, people

write in Matt Christman

[-] Inui@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Greens because PSL doesnt have any traction here. When people say I need to compromise, I tell them Stein is my compromise instead of voting for literal communists.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Stein is my compromise

This is why I hate liberals so much. Bernie, the Greens, PSL, DSA...these are the farthest right we are willing to compromise. Our other option is we show up to your house in the middle of the night and have you shot in front of your whole fucking family because of the crimes against humanity you committed.

It's the ballot or the bullet. They could prolong capitalism by several decades by appeasing the working class of the imperial core with healthcare, education, housing, etc. but they think you can squeeze water out of stone. They will accelerate people into taking more drastic action because they can't do the bare minimum of compromise.

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

PSL if they're on the ballot in my state by the election, either Stein or leaving it blank if they're not.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If I was in a state where presidential elections mattered, I'd probably be at a toss up between PSL and the Greens, if I was in a state where presidential elections don't matter (which I am) and gave a shit about presidential elections I'd probably vote for vermin supreme.

That said I live in a state where presidential elections don't matter anyways and I don't really give a shit about presidential elections, so I'm not wasting energy on writing anyone in

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

aw are you sure you don't want to go write in Joseph Robinette Biden, the one man we've been assured can beat trump?

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'd sooner write in Jeb!, the every-american american

[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

:please-clap:

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Was going to flip a coin between PSL and Green because there's nobody else to vote for, or write myself in. IDK about Jill Stein's reactionary views, what are they?

[-] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I just found that her NATOpedia article is surprisingly thorough on her positions. She claimed at one point that wifi signals damage peoples' brains (that's the main thing I was remembering) but waved it off later, and at one point was flirting with anti-vax stuff but seems to have backpedaled on that. She's also staunchly anti-nuclear-power which seems silly though I'm not very informed about that subject. She's way more based than I thought tbh but PSL is a better party

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

The PSL is also anti nuclear, but in the "nuclear power is built on exploitation of mines in Africa" kind of way.

Honestly, I saw an article recently that said China is building the equivalent of a nuclear plant every week in renewable energy, so nuclear seems kind of obsolete at this point anyway.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

They’re testing thorium molten salt reactors and those seem like a cool advancement in energy generation

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not a nuclear scientist, so idk... maybe? But China has the productive forces already developed to implement solar on a massive scale today, and I think that's the example the rest of the world needs to learn from.

[-] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

China recently opened a thorium test reactor IIRC, hopefully they can make it efficiently scalable and start exporting them with Belt & Road stuff.

bloomer xicko

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

china confirmed reddit power source country ooooooooooooooh

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

also the USA has good places for big solar farms in for example california, no need for nuclear

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Everything I've ever heard Jill Stein say about stuff like vaccines has been skeptical of corporate manufacture and oversight and capture of regulatory agencies, not skeptical of vaccines themselves

I wouldn't be surprised if the wifi thing were similar, skepticism because, well, can you trust the companies making money off of wifi to do their due diligence in determining safety? (the answer is no, but that doesn't mean wifi isn't safe)

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

i literally might go to the polls just to write in Joe Biden because the Democrats have annoyed me THAT much

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Depends who’s on the ballot. PSL would be ideal but I think in this state they’ve got some weird “recognized write-in” status, which makes me worry that writing them in won’t get registered by the state. So most likely Cornel West. Agreed that Stein has a bunch of weird positions that are more a distraction that helpful to the left wing cause.

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

a registered write in candidate just means that the state will record a write in for Claudia de la Cruz… if they weren’t registered the state will not report it at all

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

More a concern of my handwriting being illegible than anything else.

[-] Detectorist@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I thought I read that West was Zionist?

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

He seems pretty vocal about wanting a ceasefire and calling out atrocities against Palestinians, but I’m open to evidence that he’s Zionist in some way.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

IF I did, which im pretty sure I won't, it would be for Claudia De La Cruz

[-] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

PSL

There's mail in ballots where I live and it's easy, I probably wouldn't bother with casting a meaningless vote for a fringe communist party if I had to waste time to drive to a polling place to vote in person tbh

Voting on whatever ballot initiatives are good and against the bad ones

Made a personal decision to myself that I'm never voting for any Democrat ever again for whatever office in the framework of "harm reduction" unless they're clearly and genuinely running against the rest of the party and are openly anti-Zionist, either gonna leave all those blank, write in something rude, or throw those away on the most entertaining crank running for each office (unfortunately probably not since they all seem to be Q chuds or libertarian cranks, or incoherent woo woo new agey libs. What I wouldn't give for a fun Posadist crank running for comptroller or whatever)

spoilerMy phone wanted to correct "Posadist" to "Piss dust"

michael-laugh

[-] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

PSL isn't on my state's ballot this time, so that leaves Jill Stein and the Greens. Not ideal but I can manage. Also, electoralism is a fuck.

FYI, Vermin Supreme is running with the Pirate Party for 2024.

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