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China is probably not yet ready to mount a complex air-sea invasion of Taiwan, with the mighty USA at its back. But it would have no real difficulties making land invasion into Russia.

Taiwan.. not yet, too hard, but Russia is officially a GO opines our dunk tank subject, further free military advice for China can be found in the article

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 61 points 1 week ago

This reads like someone really trying to get the new player in their diplomacy game to make a huge misplay

[-] Melonius@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago

Does China know that alt + f4 brings up enemy spy locations?

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

Ukraine's not even a supply center; Russia needs to take Budapest by the end of autumn if they want to build this year.

[-] large_goblin@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago

Geopolitics is just a map painting game to these people. When your borders are bigger thats good. Why would you not want your borders to be bigger? Graduated from Total War university with a PhD in Medieval 2 crusade strategies.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

Biden should seduce Xi and have sex with him to own Putler and Brumpfk

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 week ago

Why though?

Stupid idiot with no conception of anything beyond map painting games.

Why attack Russia? They couldn't occupy it, you would need to erase the local language and replace it with Chinese which isn't going to be something you get away with in current China not to mention the way the rest of the world would use this. Takeover or occupation is off the table. So what else? Install puppet that does what you want? Russia is already trading with China and doing what they want (mostly). What benefit does China get out of this? Unfair trading relationship? They're communists, not capitalists, a colonial style unfair trading relationship like the west enters into by installing puppets everywhere in the world is not ideologically on the table for them.

It's so fucking stupid. It really highlights how stupid these people are and that they really don't understand anything at all.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 week ago

"Attack your biggest ally so we can have easier time attacking you later. Sincerely, your biggest enemy" - nothing more than that, and even US diplomats are like that just not this openly, so what you expect of some random journo.

[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Many Chinese (ultra)nationalists have long dreamed of retaking Vladivostok (Haishenwei), which is still one of the painful points along Sino-Russia relations and many see it as a great humiliation that must be avenged. The goal is to weaken Russia so much that eventually Russia has to cede Vladivostok back to China.

It will also cut Russia off from access to the Pacific (one of the most salient problems for both Russia and the USSR that have shaped their geopolitics in the Far East for more than a century) that could further subjugate Russia under China’s control.

This may not happen now but eventually China will want it back.

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Don't see anything like this happening unless there's regime change in Moscow and Russia becomes a western puppet. On the contrary, it seems that cooperation in far eastern ports is what's on the actual table.

Ultras are just being ultras.

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

This may not happen now but eventually China will want it back.

Because some Chinese boomers cry about it,or is there a material reason you think so?

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago

Famously easy to invade place, Russia.

Does he really think China just loves doing invasions for the sake of doing invasions like the US

[-] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago

either that or he's trolling

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 week ago

Settler realism

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 week ago

China is also historically pretty bad on invasions. PRC did two and lost first and draw second.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

What are the odds this Telegraph idiot thinks the liberation of Tibet was a Chinese invasion?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 week ago

300% at least. Also the first invasion i mentioned, Taiwan at the end of civil war, was only an invasion from stricte military point of view as in "naval invasion operation", because you can't invade your own country.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago

China isn't going for a domination victory. They're clearly after a science victory. That's why they chose the communism government for the production bonus. It makes more sense to maintain their level 2 alliance with russia for extra gold to buy builder units that can speed up lengthy spaceport projects.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago
[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is no other way to interpret this than as someone who's been kept in sensory deprivation with only 4x games then asked to write about the real world.

Like dude should be writing articles critiquing the strategies of twitch streamers not governments irl

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Your comment did an excellent job of matching his energy lol

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago

Got downvoted to hell on .world the other day for saying "maybe, hear me out, China doesn't consider invasions because it's not a militaristic, expansionist country?"

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

They hated you because you spoke the truth

[-] Radiantprime@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

I think it probably could be fairly defined as either but I would also grant you that they could be considered to have much different goals as a whole than Western militaristic and expansionary endeavours and that, generally speaking, they balance those goals against a wider group or population than you would see the West doing.

Are they happy to expand into contested zones? Absolutely. Will they make shows of force to do so? Absolutely. If it means a protracted military solution though then that's not going to happen, they're not interested. They will attempt to find a commercial solution or they will just wait for an opportunity over a very long period of time.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Are they happy to expand into contested zones?

Isn't that... the definition of contested zones? Like, Morocco contests Ceuta and Melilla, Spain contests Gibraltar... and there's endless political tension from these issues.

They will attempt to find a commercial solution

Doesn't this go against the definition of militarism?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Doesn't this go against the definition of militarism?

"War, trade, and piracy together are a trinity not to be severed."

90% of wars are for commercial interests, and the rest are sus too.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Wars being for commercial interests, doesn't imply that engaging in trade makes you militaristic

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

But it is not opposed to it, and in fact often correlates with it.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah but china isn't a country known for engaging in military action

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, but pointing at commercial interests is not helping this case at all.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

It’s really funny how westerners think everyone is salivating at the prospect of war for any reason just because they are

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With early autumn settling in, the NATOists' thoughts draw to winter and their desire to die in the snow in a desperate attempt to push east, like so many Nazis before them.

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

These people are paid to write lmao

[-] miz@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

the mighty USA

[laughs in Yemeni Arabic]

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

HOI4 and it's consequences. The US couldn't even deal with Afghanistan, but somehow all the military pundits in the west still think "yeah annex territory of a hostile populace, that's what they want". Why? For what reason? What would there be to gain?

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

"Invade Russia" focus takes 120 days unfortunately. Paradox plz fix

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

Why in the ever loving fuck would they attack Russia?

Liberals think everyone is as bloodthrist as they are.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago
[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

The projection is unreal

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Send him first.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Definitely easier to invade the world's largest country than the worlds ~130th one, i am very smart pls give money Telegraph

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

With one of the biggest nuclear arsenal as well

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

There might never be a better time for George Allison to suck a fart and hold it in until he suffocates on a fuckin fart

[-] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Xi, are you reading this?!?!

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Probably the funniest part to me... who is this for??

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