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I wouldnt call it "degrowth".

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[–] kittin@hexbear.net 53 points 2 months ago

I wasn’t earning enough money so I decided to cut costs by not going to the office anymore and now they’ve fired me

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago

Tearing the copper from the walls makes the building less useful even if that copper sold pretty good that one time surprised-pika

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Austerity true believers are always convinced this time their scheme will work and then it blows up in their faces. Like a fucked up ancap version of Rita Repulsa

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Curses, the Dual Power Rangers have caused the rate of profit to fall!

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

where are the degrowth leftists now? smuglord

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago
[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

milei will someday be prosecuted for mass murder.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Lol we wish

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 months ago

Prosecuting for social murder is literally the absolute last thing burgies and their dogs will allow, because 99% of them would go into the pit.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Hm... But what about GDP? Or the rich? How are they doing?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wouldnt call it “degrowth”.

Is there even a definition of degrowth out there? I heard everything from normal socialist curbing of overproduction up to holocaust of nearly entire humanity because immediately getting back to monke be called "degrowth" out there in the nets.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago

Degrowth implies some kind of intention and plan to it at least. Milei crashed the economy while trying to grow it.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Jsson Hickel defines it as basically climate justice but for reducing energy use and resource use in production. Ways to reduce energy use include making fewer things or not making unnecessary things, which goes against capitalist growth tendencies, so the name kind of fits. Confusingly, GDP could go up under a "degrowth" of this type.

In my opinion the countries with the political capacity to reduce energy and resource use would fail to actually do do if they basically crashed their economies via lower GDPs that only they take on. It might look good for the world for a few months or years but eventually they'd need to reverse course either due to political pressure or because it becomes a failed state. Realistically, countries will need GDP growth to coincidd with reduced energy use. China is going in the right direction for this by developing production for things like solar and wind and addressing energy efficiency and pollution at its factories. Both are massive challenges that have not been fully overcome by a long shot, but they show how degrowth depends on improvements in production and its forces to be vianle.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For me it's that first worlders (and to a lesser extent the top 1% in the global south) should reduce excess consumption. Oversized trucks and homes, high meat and dairy consumption, buying new phones every year for the sake of it etc...

The Argentina situation fucks over everyone except the top percentiles who are allowed to consume as they please.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oversized trucks and homes, high meat and dairy consumption, buying new phones every year for the sake of it etc...

while those are wasteful things, we shouldn't be individualist about it. emissions regulations, licensing and taxes for large vehicles, ending cow subsidies, and central planning to eliminate over-production are real solutions while magically changing individual liberal habits are not.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Yea of course, car centric design has to go. i agree its not an individual issue.

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Aerodynamics of a continent

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Brasil really fluctuating there

[–] Monstera@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't really trust 2018-2022 numbers from Brazil (bolsenaro). But his government did do something simmilar to the stimulas check in 2020

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

I feel really bad for average Argentinians who have to deal with this bullshit but I'm definitely having a laugh at Milei today

[–] flango 12 points 2 months ago
[–] jack@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

I just can't figure out why AMLO and co are popular. Is it because they have brainwashed the population?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago
[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

"Prosperity is ahead for Argentina"