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The “brigading” (for lack of a better word) of that Jacobin post really shows just how much the very memory of Che fucks with libs and reactionaries. The man was cool in every sense of the word. Even after he liberated Cuba from a corrupt US-puppet dictatorship, he took the fight to injustice all over the world until the day he died, in Africa and South America in particular. His death at the hands of the US-backed Bolivian dictatorship also had the “unfortunate” side effect of his visage being forever ingrained into the world, even within the US. Him being handsome is just icing on the cake.

So, they have to smear him in the wildest ways in an attempt to tear that down in bad faith. It also shows whenever they make up stuff about Che’s attitudes/actions with regard to black and LGBT people, the former of which is especially hilarious because Che was tearing into the US’s injustice and hypocrisy for its own treatment of African Americans at the time.

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 68 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Lol a bunch of chuds were mad about Motorcycle Diaries getting awards in the west because it's about young Che's journey of self discovery back when he was still Ernesto Guevara, a medical student who wanted to help lepers and the indigenous poor

Stay mad, chuds, our heroes are cooler than yours

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

As a young movie nerd, I found Roger Ebert's seething review of it very weird in tone. I think reading that was an important nucleator for leftism in me, as it made me suspicious of the emotional motivations that the older generations had when they explained communism to me.

[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

this is a wild take

Those Young Men Grew Up, etc. It’s a convenient formula, because it saves you the trouble of dealing with who they became.

It belongs to the dead-end literary genre in which youthful adventures are described, and then “…that young man grew up to be (Benjamin Franklin, Einstein, Rod Stewart, etc).”

“Che liberating Cuba is as bad as bfrank womanising and leading a settler colonial project, berty einy developing atomic weapons to drop on civilian targets, and rodstew being the elvis of motown”

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 67 points 5 days ago

Parenti wrote in Blackshirts and Reds about how even Miami gusanos thought Che didn't kill anyone who didn't deserve it, so I doubt he was machine gunning children.

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 52 points 5 days ago

no, no. i read on twitter he loved killing children. he always did it personally and then said a cool one liner afterwards. what a monster.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

he sayd "hasta la vista, baby" (bc it was a baby he killed, so he sad that to himn, the baby sadness )

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 59 points 5 days ago

They're not even going to try to have a source for this claim, are they?

[-] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 37 points 5 days ago
[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Have you considered ⁵United States Department of State?

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

"It came to me in a dream"

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 31 points 5 days ago

Source: they saw it in a PragerU video

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

They brought a gusano on to talk about it so you know it's legit

[-] kittin@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Source of article a: article b

Source of article b: Wikipedia

Source of Wikipedia: article a

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 47 points 5 days ago
[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 50 points 5 days ago

Fuck the westerners and their propaganda. Even liberals in the global south view Che positively.

Everyone in tge global South does

As for Castro

In rammalah there's a street named after him

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 37 points 5 days ago

Even chuds in Turkiye view him positively

[-] axont@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If I remember right: Jon Lee Anderson's biography of Guevara says he only killed three people in criminal executions. One was a man stealing food from a village, one was a traitor who was giving information to Batista's soldiers, and I don't remember the third but I doubt it was a 12 year old boy considering the other two were actual serious criminals.

[-] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Its an anecdote with no source

“ Several men who survived La Cabana prison recall a night when a 14-year-old boy was shoved into their holding cell. When asked what he did, he gasped that he had tried to defend his father from the firing squad, but was unsuccessful.

Moments later, guards dragged the boy out of the cell, and Che Guevara himself ordered the boy to kneel down.

The jailed men screamed "assassins!" and watched out of their cell window as Guevara took out his pistol, put the barrel to the back of the boy's neck, and fired.”

https://www.collegiatetimes.com/opinion/column-che-guevara-exposing-myths-about-a-murderer/article_7392ebfe-329b-5736-881e-d37e10ce733f.html

This was the first time it was “reported” and in 2008. No source used. Every article that quotes this uses the article as citation.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 38 points 5 days ago

it's very simple actually
Every death ~under~ ~communism~ is a horrific tragedy and palestinians arent people

unlimited genocide on the hypocrites of the western world qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 43 points 5 days ago

The difference between capitalists and communists is that communists don't have to lie.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 38 points 5 days ago

Anti-Communists can only lie and arguing with them about the validity of their claims only results in snappy zingers and name calling. Had it happen recently over the argument that Castro hoarded all the wealth in Cuba. Only got snark and stupid names in response when pressing them for a source.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 38 points 5 days ago

All western anticommunist historiography is based on fabrication

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 42 points 5 days ago

that's not entirely true!

A lot of it is also projection

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 22 points 5 days ago

One time a coworker was telling another coworker about Che and what all he did, when one of the guys at the shelter, an older Cuban dude, gets all up in arms about how "Che is a murderer! He is a murderer!"

Like my dude, you are living in a shitty American homeless shelter surrounded by poverty and suffering, and you're still gonna be anti-communist?

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

Lmao projection as usual. Che didn't kill any kids

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago
[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

tbf to Bizarro-Che all 12 year olds are counter-revolutionary

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

“Tiny, little Hitlers” paraphrasing that one Donald Glover standup.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

anyway, nice occasion to share this gem

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