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https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/1704093894647161094

zizek-fuck

The think tank bros are not okay. Props to this dumbass retweeting all the people calling him a fucking idiot though. Good bit.

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[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay if capitalism doesn't exist and nobody does anything on behalf of it, then it should be okay if we overthrow it, right? I mean you can't defend that which doesn't exist. So if there's nothing to defend, then what's the problem with socialism? What are you preserving?

[–] axont@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I already know how these people would answer. Their response is that what exists currently is simply freedom. Maybe some minor tweaks are necessary to bring more people into the fold of freedom, but otherwise what exists now is not an intended, designed structure.

However they'd claim socialism is an attempt to corral natural human freedom in an unnatural way.

These people don't like admitting that certain people have intrinsic political conflict with others. They view all conflict as misunderstandings or the personal moral failure of greed

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Like this has got to be case in point of a generation raised on media who can only relate to politics through spectacle and aesthetics.....right? I'm coming up short on analogies but this is like the equivalent of wondering why UFC fights don't look like marvel movie action pieces or some shit. Like guess what kids: in real life oligarchs and business interests don't meet in secret shadowy smoke filled rooms. They meet out in the open on million dollar yachts and pieces of property and they often televise everything openly.

The real life truth is every bit as evil but its also infinitely more banal.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

The State? What's that?

[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, business owners aren't real because no one has ever seen a business owner: https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/1704182743163179194

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

nobody has ever seen it do anything, because it's totally unconnected to the actions of any identifiable individuals

Actually I can't be a fascist because I'm a soulless cog in a baby eating machine

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

If they only care about their business, that in and of itself makes a political statement. Absence of care defines politics as much as presence of care does

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Head of Political Economy @iealondon. Views my own. Author of the books 'Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies' and 'Universal Healthcare Without The NHS'.

evergreen article about these PMC vermin from Amber: https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2019/11/the-characterless-opportunism-of-the-managerial-class/

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liberals really believe that marxists believe that businessmen are all huddling together and literally working together and not just giving money to separate causes with the same ultimate outcomes.

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But they do that though. That is what the diary council is. Literally all the people who own cows give some lawyers money to bribe senators with. It is just a diffrent kind of insurance but it is very much the backroom deal stuff they picture.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

The truther-to-Marxian pipeline does in fact exist though.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

didnt they literally just do this at some congress meeting that was warmongering about china

[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s called interest convergence. We have a whole term for this exact line of thought, which has been debunked at length.

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[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This take is so bad I forgot it was a dunk screenshot and I reflexively downvoted

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[–] raven@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They only care about their own business. They only care about their workers insofar as their labor provides profits for their business. That isn't political at all?

They don't care about providing for their workers the best work environment, the best healthcare plans, the highest wages, and the ones who do are less successful in the marketplace because they have less money left over to reinvest in advertising and signage and the like. This multiplied by a million business owners racing to the "top" which from the worker perspective as well as the consumer perspective is a race to the bottom.

Reddit-brain MF thinks he can downvote Karl Marx in his profile picture.


data-laughing

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Rightoids really do see themselves as the absence of politics.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Having a vested interest in maximizing profit is apolitical sweaty, maybe you’ll learn that when you’re older

[–] beautiful_boater@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Having Mental Breakdown Shouting in Fetal Position STRUCTURAL...CRITIQUE!!!

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago
[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

hmmm, what aspect of their business do they care about exactly?

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