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[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 62 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think this dude is long gone. He was out of the city before 12 hours had passed.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hotel -> Central Park -> Trains to JFK -> flight -> SURPRISE the flight is to Newark, where nobody will look because nobody goes there willingly

[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Based on where he was I think la guardia or maybe even Newark would have been safer bets than going all the way down to jfk.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Going to jfk would be too on the nose.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

You assume he wants to live, then suggest La Guardia!?

lmao jk. Starting in Central Park you can go anywhere anonymously easily just by doing an outfit change and wearing a mask. La Guardia woild be faster than JFK.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Welcome back, comrade! You did well.

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[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’d like to think he is too. But I don’t. That man will get caught. Things like this will start the working class getting uppity, and those who hold the purse strings cannot afford to allow another incident like this. It will be squashed.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Only 40% of homicides get solved and nearly all of those are instances where the person's identity is very easily obtained by witnesses or family or something. Most homicides involve someone who knew the victim, or at least had prior encounters with them.

In this case it's an unknown assailant shooting someone he had presumably never met, and also a person who took pains to conceal their identity. Cops are incredibly lazy and solving murders often relies on luck as much as investigation.

This kind of thing doesn't have a lot of precedent though. It's been a while since a successful high profile assassination. Most assassinations are solved because someone captures the assassin right at the scene, within minutes. This guy has been MIA for over a day with still no name, no identity, not even a description other than probably a white male.

The assassin is probably not in New York anymore, possibly not even in the USA. He/she could be in Paris by now. The only way I could imagine the feds/cops find this person is DNA or a fingerprint links them to someone who's already in a database, then who knows. This seemed planned so the assassin could very well be holed up in an embassy Julian Assange style.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

or a fingerprint

Which is even more funny, because "unique fingerprints" are bullshit science on the same level as "lie detector machines".

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I may have exaggerated a bit. Fingerprint evidence is almost entirely subjective analysis, relying on the person looking at the prints being ethical and unbiased. A perfect description of cops, if you ask me.

There have been a lot of high profile cases where fingerprint evidence was a "100% match", even though that would been impossible. The Madrid train bombings 20 years ago are the first case that immediately comes to mind—a guy halfway across the world, who had no passport, and hadn't left the country in a decade, had "his" fingerprints all over the bombs. But, he'd recently converted to Islam, and the wAr On TeRrOr had just started firing on all cylinders in Iraq, so he got Patriot Act'd for a month.

Fingerprints may very well be unique, but subjective analysis ain't real science.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mate, the entire world capitalist class wants this person dead ASAP

[–] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Mate, the entire world capitalist class wants this person dead ASAP

ok but they still need to be able to find and identify him to make that happen

[–] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

they might claim to catch someone just to save face who happens to die "resisting arrest", but I think this guy is gone

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 58 points 3 weeks ago

My gut feeling is they'll kill some random poor / homeless person and just say it was them.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shame shit they pulled with dorner which lead to the LAPD shooting up two women delivering newspapers iirc.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have no doubts that if they manage to find the right guy, they will take out at least one bystander and probably another piggy in the process.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty much. Just the other day the nypd mag dumped on a fare evader and hit someone else and another pig instead.

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

-Someone- will go down for it. Whether that's actually the guy or not is another question.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the NYPD already put out photos of a guy who CLEARLY wasn't the guy, different jacket different hood different backpack

[–] axont@hexbear.net 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The NYPD claims to already have DNA evidence and if that's the case I have to assume they have no idea who it belongs to or can't 100% link it to the assassinatoon, otherwise they would have put a name out already.

They have no idea.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao where would they have gotten the shooter's DNA from? What a ridiculous claim to make

[–] miz@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

they say a water bottle and candy wrapper

I'm guessing it's smoke but who knows

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The guy went in an alley and they found those things in the alley, right?

Essentially they are saying they found litter in a New York alleyway.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Based on the DNA found on the water bottle and candy wrapper, the shooter was a giant rat, apparently the-pigsxi-gun-2failure

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

theres no way he was eating candy and drinking water in the five minutes he was standing there and just dumped the trash

[–] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think they claimed to have recovered it from the Starbucks but I really don't remember clearly

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

lmao i mean i guess if they had the name they gave the nurse and found the cup, they could??? but from what i read he used cash at starbucks and could have just said any name

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention cops hate it when expert witnesses testify on DNA evidence because turns out real life is not CSI: Miami and DNA evidence is not really conclusive at all.

So them having DNA, even if true, means diddly squat.

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know, those photos are still up and everywhere. If that's somebody else, wouldn't they have found out by now and made some sort of effort to clear their name to not get got?

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

those photos are still really low quality, I know like 2 people that could be the guy

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That dude is gonna get caught. NYC pigs and feds will pull out all the stops to make sure he is caught and made an example of. The billionaire class cannot afford for the poor to begin handling it in-house.

How much of an example is left up to whoever catches him I reckon.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

completely agreed and i hope that his death is quicker and more painless that the monster he relieved us of.

it's been 48 hours and i wonder if there's a chance still and i also wonder how the billionaire class is going to respond. bodyguards? will there be more? will there be another bonnie and clyde? (i hope that we're in another era of bank robbers and robin hood types becoming folk heros like they were in the late-19th/early-20th century; they would OWN social media).

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

they have no idea what he looks like, other than white male and a rough age range. if there isn't enough evidence to find personal info about him, that's the end of it. a cop could look him in the eye and have no idea.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

a cop could look him in the eye and have no idea.

luckily they are unlikely to let that them stop them from shooting him

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The NYPD has released pictures of his face with his mask down, if it is him they have a mostly clear image now unfortunately.

Edit: examining the images now though I'm not totally convinced it's the same person

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I made an edit, I hadn't looked super close but I think you're right, nose is different, different coat and bag, and the police are that incompetent to think it's him and be wrong. Or they just have so much pressure to 'do their job' that they had to release something.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s been 48(?) hours… I’d give it some time yet.

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the first few hours are by far the most important, the chances of catching him just keep going down after that.

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

My mom's television viewing habits are weirdly relevant.

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How will he get caught? Cops are incredibly incompetent. So is the FBI. They are mechanisms of social control, not mystery solving.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

lol. I got it. You don’t want him to be caught. Which is perfectly fine. Neither do I. The former CEO of united healthcare got what he deserved, frankly. But wanting something to happen is neither here nor there. Pay attention to how much this is disturbing the rich and those in power. They’re going to look long and hard for this man. The man has to have everything just so. Cops only need a bit of luck once or twice. Odds are that he gets caught, despite how badly most of America doesn’t want him to.

Also, do you think i know how he’s going to be caught? lol

[–] miz@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

yeah if they find him he's getting the Michael Reinohl special

if he's as smart as he seems he went straight to JFK and flew to a non-extradition country

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You make it sound like he's retiring.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

he's probably just chilling at home

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope they don't find him. But if they do, I hope he goes on trial and the jury immediately nullifies. Like, 5 minutes deliberation, not guilty on all counts. Hell, need an indictment for murder charges right? The grand jury could nullify and it's over.

Except if he was in custody the police would almost certainly murder him. On the other hand, he's probably white so maybe not?

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

If he survives the "arrest", he's gonna be Epsteined faster than lighting

[–] Wolfman86@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

They’ll probably want to. And there will be no investigation (which is probably the point.). Happened numerous times in numerous countries.

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