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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 97 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Why do Zionists act like Isreal was "carved out of the desert" from nothing? Palestine has been inhabited by people for thousands of years. Some of the oldest continously inhabited cites are in the Levant.

I mean i get its there nonsense propaganda, but it's so ignorant of just obvious things - like you know thousand year old cities

[–] AliSaket@mander.xyz 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is part of the dehumanization of the native population. "They were all primitive and savage and now look how we've civilized the place." To propagate the myth of a land without a people, just the same as the Native American or the Native Australian populations who have been conveniently ignored so you could displace and/or kill them.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never realized it but you're right that it seems extremely reminiscent of the myth of the untouched wilderness of North America or Australia. It's like "Wow! It's so empty and ready for settling!" when there's whole populations and societies who have lived there for thousands of years and carefully cultivated the environment. Both still have to go through a long, struggling genocide to settle the area so you think that would dispel the myth right there, but for some reason it still persists for all 3 areas, even today.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

the term colonists came up with for this illusion is "terra nullius"

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Palestine was fertile olive groves and wheat fields since antiquity. Is Italy a desert as well?

Its like euro settlers in the americas calling native civilizations “a vast empty wilderness”

[–] regul@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

It is simultaneously the land of milk and honey promised to them by god and also a lifeless desert with no prior inhabitants, except them 3000 years ago they were there first, err I mean exclusively.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

A side effect of the Nakba was increased desertification of Palestine, because Isn'treal neither had the manpower, nor the knowledge of running the intricate water infrastructure of palestine after ethnically cleansing most of the place.

Israel did not make the desert bloom, it made the larger.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago

The whole project is anchored around delusional worldbuilding, the point is to erase thousands of years of history and construct a simulacra dreamt up in the fever dreams of 19th century European orientalists

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

Ignorant? They’re well aware, they’re just lying

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

The term "The Frontier" was already taken by the USA.