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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 96 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Why do Zionists act like Isreal was "carved out of the desert" from nothing? Palestine has been inhabited by people for thousands of years. Some of the oldest continously inhabited cites are in the Levant.

I mean i get its there nonsense propaganda, but it's so ignorant of just obvious things - like you know thousand year old cities

[-] AliSaket@mander.xyz 67 points 5 days ago

It is part of the dehumanization of the native population. "They were all primitive and savage and now look how we've civilized the place." To propagate the myth of a land without a people, just the same as the Native American or the Native Australian populations who have been conveniently ignored so you could displace and/or kill them.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

I never realized it but you're right that it seems extremely reminiscent of the myth of the untouched wilderness of North America or Australia. It's like "Wow! It's so empty and ready for settling!" when there's whole populations and societies who have lived there for thousands of years and carefully cultivated the environment. Both still have to go through a long, struggling genocide to settle the area so you think that would dispel the myth right there, but for some reason it still persists for all 3 areas, even today.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

the term colonists came up with for this illusion is "terra nullius"

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 63 points 5 days ago

Palestine was fertile olive groves and wheat fields since antiquity. Is Italy a desert as well?

Its like euro settlers in the americas calling native civilizations “a vast empty wilderness”

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

Ignorant? They’re well aware, they’re just lying

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 49 points 5 days ago

The whole project is anchored around delusional worldbuilding, the point is to erase thousands of years of history and construct a simulacra dreamt up in the fever dreams of 19th century European orientalists

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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 100 points 5 days ago

I will never forgive Disney for introducing Wakanda to white people

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 59 points 5 days ago

It was created by white people for white audiences tho?

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 67 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Am I the only person who thought the giant forcefield protecting Wakanda being activated/deactivated by a tribal drumming routine a bit iffy? To me that would be like MI6 Q labs being unlocked by a Morris dancer troop.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 76 points 5 days ago

I'm still mad they kept the weird "We pick kings through ritual combat" angle

Which, you know, making the technologically advanced nation governmentally regressive is still really racist

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 62 points 5 days ago

Liberals have no understanding of the coupling between productive forces and social organization.

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[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago

It was created by a white person for a white audience as he imagined black americans would like to be seen.

Thats why wakanda is more like black americans cosplaying as native africans and they somehow speak xhosa near the great lakes of africa lol

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

Sure but at least it was pretty niche before that, Black Panther wasn't really Spider-man or the X-men and US comic book sales had been slowly dropping over time.

Now I have to see some Zionist racist compare Liberia to Wakanda

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[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

that movie is literally about the CIA 'saving' an African nation by installing their own leader

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 37 points 5 days ago

Killmonger did nothing wrong

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[-] regul@hexbear.net 88 points 5 days ago

If white people are so great how come nowhere in Europe looks like the city from the Jetsons?

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 55 points 5 days ago

Europeans claim to have superior food, but they can't even terraform their continent into a giant garden where you just pick food up off the ground or throw a rock and hit a large animal.

[-] TotalBrownout@hexbear.net 74 points 5 days ago
[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 52 points 5 days ago
[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 22 points 5 days ago

...And people wonder why I have no issues with vocalizing how badly I want settlers dead anymore.

I want that karen swinging by her ankles from the same trees her ancestors put mine in fuck turning the other cheek.

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What is reconstruction ?

Also lmao bruh

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s a period of US history. Post-Civil War. I’m assuming she’s arguing against the amendments made for freed slaves during that time

Edit: looks like she spends most of the argument making the case that the poor confederates were treated so harshly post-war when in reality the Republicans should have gone a lot harder

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[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What is reconstruction ?

The period that came after the Civil War and Emancipation Proclamation that should have seen the South rebuilt, and Black subjects of empire made not only whole, but equal to the white man. (Only part of one of these things actually happened.) Large parts of the efforts aimed at making newfound Freedmen whole would be scuttled by the klansman king Andrew Johnson and those to follow him; notable among the reforms that got the axe being Union general Ulysses S. Grant's "Field Order 15", which is where the 'forty acres and a mule' bit in Amerikan history sources from.

I think only like ten Freedmen actually got that land and mule before Johnson deaded that order.

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[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 64 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

When Liberia was founded, the “Americo-Liberians” subjugated local Africans and placed them on the bottom of the social hierarchy even after “equality was formally mandated and the True Whigs’ dominance in politics lessened. It was one of several galvanizing factors of the Liberian Civil War.

So the fact that she made that comparison is interesting…

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 54 points 5 days ago

is this implying she sees israel as a real wakanda

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago

I think a lot of people see Israel as this miraculous techno-utopia that sprung out of the desert. For them, it's not about Building A Better Future - the Better Future is Now, and the dastardly Muslim are trying to mess it all up!

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

that's definitely how the people who made that movie see israel lol

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The kind of racism a certain subset of white women have shown to POC men over their views on Palestine is legitimately terrifying. This is the kind of thinking that got Emmett Till lynched.

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[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 45 points 5 days ago

I love this. Ta-Nehisi Coate's going from a liberal darling to persona non grata amongst the nastiest and most deranged liberals. The tide is truly turning, lol. Most people are gonna be ride or die for him, not for Kamala or Joe. I read him when I was a liberal, he does the job of getting you almost to the finish line on a lot of policies and ideas.

[-] YuccaMan@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

Plus it's been darkly amusing to watch those same liberals struggle not to call him the n-word

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 59 points 5 days ago

Also, Africa famously did have its own version of Israel, and she probably wants it back

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

In fact, it had several

[-] miz@hexbear.net 59 points 5 days ago

the racism just dripping off of this

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 48 points 5 days ago

Only zionists can call a mediterranean climate area a "desert" like the known deserts of italy and greece

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 5 days ago

thing is, desertification accelerated under zionist occupation because they keep replacing native plants with shitty european ones

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[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 49 points 5 days ago
[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 48 points 5 days ago

Helen, your mask is breakinganti-cracker-aktion

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 42 points 5 days ago

Of course it's a fucking cracker. A hundred years ago she'd have been getting another Emmett Till lynched; the audacity of these crackers istg.

[-] GrumpigPoopBalls@hexbear.net 36 points 5 days ago

see the comment in this very thread where the same kkkracka (literally this time) implies that Emmett Till deserved lynching...

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[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

In the study of Zionism, there are actually some really interesting parallels between Marcus Garvey and Theodore Herzl. But Herzl never had J. Edgar Hoover as a nemesis.

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago
[-] Venat@hexbear.net 43 points 5 days ago

no, these are the best types of hexbear comments. No context are the best, followed by axioms without explanations, and then just quoting another comment but highlighting a particular sentence without comment.

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I always knew in the back of my mind that I would see this weirdo again, didn't know it would be because she found a way to rewrite a racist 4chan meme in smug liberal zionist lingo

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago

Straight up just a racist turd being racist

"The BLLLacks are jelly of us!!" That's all these fascists have now, bald-faced racism without any pretext of optics or obfuscation

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[-] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

welp, helen's name is now on the list.

good luck at your war crimes trial, oppressor.

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