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This pissed me off so fucking much when people defend Christianity by saying that all of the bad shit is in the Old Testament and that the New Testament is totally fine.

1 Corinthians 6:9

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

Gay people and gender non-conforming people are not allowed in to heaven

1 Peter 3:1

"Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands;"

It's still an extremely misogynistic book even in the new testament

Romans 1:26-27 ... 32

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

...

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Both homophobia and misogyny

I could go on and on, and I probably will in the comments, but it's pretty fucking clear that all the nasty bigoted shit in the book just doesn't go away in the New Testament

You cannot separate the bigotry from the Bible. The Bible is very clear that you cannot pick and chose, that you have to accept the full book or none of it, you can't just take the verses you like and still be Christian. To be a good Christian who follows the entire Bible you must be bigoted

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[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I mean if we're opening this can of worms I'd point out Islam is just as bad.

[–] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is why China seemingly has the most practical approach to all of this.

Bring religion under the eye of the state so that it's incapable of manifesting its most destructive tendencies into reality and use that surveillance to quickly identify it and deradicalize if it happens.

Address the needs of community, mutual aid, and more broadly hope that religion satisfies at its best and work to provide that through the state. Allow the religiously-inclined to still practice while preventing opportunists who seek to use it against the broader interests of the people.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

IIRC Islam was a key ally of the US in crushing communist movements in the Middle East.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago

Before the Taliban were pulling girls out of schools set up by the US, they were doing it to girls in schools set up by the PDPA.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Double-edged though, since many communist movements in the middle east have been at the very least secular, if not outright atheist. Looking at examples like Mosaddegh (not particularly communist, but secular and allied with commies); or the communist Afghani government during the USSR intervention

On the other hand you have the example of Libya and Qaddafi.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

many communist movements in the middle east have been at the very least secular, if not outright atheist.

Funny, that.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Das Kapital doesn't have rhyme, meter, inscrutable letters at the starts of half of the chapters, nor any special rules for how to recite it. Islam 1, Marxism 0.

"I take refuge in the method of dialectical materialismmmmm, in the name of proletarian liberationnnnnn. Alif, laaaaam, meeeeeem."