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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 74 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

(paraphrasing) the far left will say to firebomb a Walmart but not actually do it

We burnt down a motherfucking police station cool-zone

A major climate bill

If it does nothing to change the trajectory of climate change than how is it major?

(Paraphasing) What have the anti-electoralist left done in comparison to the democrats?

Why the fuck are you comparing the least powerful people in the country to some of the most powerful? Are you even a leftist, Contra?

Not to mention the absolute stupidity of saying the anti-electoralist left is ineffective, when I'm pretty sure both Marx and Lenin both pointed out the pointlessness of bourgeoisie elections (maybe theory nerds can correct me if I'm wrong?)

I haven't watched Contrapoints for a loooong time, but she was always my least favourite Breadtuber. She had this sort of "Trans people should try to pass if we want to be accepted" video if I recall correctly and that's when I noped the fuck away from her videos.

Skull boy is okay, the rest of breadtube can suck my enby ass. Half of them give me fed vibes anyway.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 69 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Are you even a leftist, Contra?

do you even need to ask lol

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 64 points 4 months ago

a picture of me next to Hillary does not count

if you’re not allowed to show everything lib she’s ever done, and you squint hard, there may be a case for the moderate wing of fascism at best

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

contra need the "pro" first for its existance .. it is the `reactionΒ΄ one could say..

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I haven't watched Contrapoints for a loooong time, but she was always my least favourite Breadtuber. She had this sort of "Trans people should try to pass if we want to be accepted" video if I recall correctly and that's when I noped the fuck away from her videos.

Oh yeah she has done that and more. She has the most libbed up trajectory. She did the voting video if I remember, where she opines how revolution is bad and leads to "China tiananmen square 1989 mao great leap forward 1000 billion dead". And blames tankies for trump winning prior.

Anyway she also did hillary girlboss docu and gleefully bantered with hilldawg and Chelsea. Awesome.

Apparently gaza is mega complicated for her to decide which side is bad .

[–] axont@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Ok now I get why people say she's dismissive of nonbinary people. Trans people are supposed to pass? Like I'm nonbinary and agender. What am I supposed to pass as? A rock?

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What am I supposed to pass as? A rock?

You rock. 🀘

[–] axont@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

hexbear-non-binary trans-heart thank you, you're kind!

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're supposed to pass through fascist and terf guts

And you all already pass as a bunch of very cute and wholesome comrades

[–] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

cat-trans You're very sweet! I don't get a lot of daily confirmation but my comrades are always there for me flag-non-binary-pride

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 4 months ago

stalin heart hands You're welcome comrade πŸ˜‰

[–] jack@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't tell me that if you could pass as a rock you wouldn't leap at the chance

[–] axont@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

is it like in Kirby where I can metamorph into a rock and roll down inclines

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

It works even better if you can fly or float so you can do the classic super smash Kirby move of flying up high before turning into a rock

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

white liberal trans always become fuckin bigoted against nonbinaries, fucking just as bad as the fucking transphobes at that point

and you are a cute and amazing person axont, you pass by existing, like any other trans person

[–] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

i'm really glad everyone is so sweet and considerate. I often don't even feel trans enough or that I'm not doing anything, since most people don't even know I'm nonbinary unless I tell them. I'm not on HRT or anything and don't have discrimination from my immediate family (extended family is a different story). All I've really faced is that coworkers and random people don't understand or believe me, they say I'm just making stuff up. But I know who I am and so do my comrades, so I'm really grateful for that. At most I sometimes feel like I'm "supposed" to present androgynous, but why? I'd rather just be comfortable and present how I feel like. I mostly dress as a mid-90s lesbian, like with skinny jeans and boots lol.

My biggest enby victory so far is a time when I went to jury duty. I'm registered in the county with my gender as "Other" and so the judge had literally no idea how to address me. Kept going back and forth between "Mister" and "Miss" and that kind of ruled.

flag-non-binary-pride bridget-pride

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Unrealistic standards for enbies, smh.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Seems like my gut was right then, yikes

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

About the marx and lenin thing, both of them saw working class participation in bourgeois poltiics as necessary for the working class to count its own strength and put forth its political program. They saw it essentially as preparatory work for any revolution.

Neither had any illusions that participation in bourgeois politics by voting for bourgeois parties or bourgeois candidates would have any benefits. I don't know which one said it, but they even explicitly point out that it is better for the number of reactionary representatives in parliament to increase than for the working class candidates to deradicalise their program, or sell out to the bourgeoise.

That is because, again, the point is to disseminate revolutionary views within the population, to create a known alternative that could become a rallying cry if a revolutionary situation presented itself.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 4 months ago

Now that I think about it, medicare for all is funnily enough, a good example of this strategy. For a long time, the idea was completely mocked, but now that we went through that period of Ideological struggle around 2016 and 2020, it has become far more mainstream.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

Exactly. Voting is fine, not verboten, but vote for communist parties, fuck the liberals.

xi-vote

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't know which one said it, but they even explicitly point out that it is better for the number of reactionary representatives in parliament to increase than for the working class candidates to deradicalise their program, or sell out to the bourgeoise.

Marx:

β€œEven where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.”

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Sean skullman and hbomberguy stay winning

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Once again reminding people that cool-zone was an unrelated apartment building under construction that burned down in Minneapolis and not the police station.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Well we need a picture on that police station then meow-tableflip