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[–] DiscoPosting@hexbear.net 114 points 1 year ago (8 children)

de-empathy [Hard: Success] — War, and murder, and violence...they're all just so terrible. So, so many people are suffering, every single day. And worst of all are the ones who pay back violence with violence. You worry that it merely ensures an unending cycle of ever more violence. Just more and more people being hurt. It is a history of abject failure.

cindy-the-skull — "Haiti, Angola, South Africa, Cuba, Vietnam. I could genuinely go on."

de-drama — Oh-ho, this one knows much, Sire! Good, good! This may prove to be an interesting debate...

de-encyclopedia [Challenging 12] — Recall everything you know about the history of violent uprisings.

de-dice-5 de-dice-4 CHECK SUCCESS

de-encyclopedia — Delving deep within the recesses of your mind, poking around inside all of the grey little folds and corners, you manage to come across a pale, faded memory. Exerting a little concentration frees it from the gummy surface of your liquor-pickled brain, bringing it into focus: it's the sum total of all of the knowledge you have ever possessed about the history of violent uprisings.

de-encyclopedia — It's blank.

dubois-depressed — No. Surely there has to be something in there.

de-encyclopedia — You're a moralist, detective. Why would you know anything about history?

[–] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

never stop. please

[–] Chump@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

best account on the whole hex

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago
[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I gotta try to play this game again.

you rly do. remember to save often and follow yr heart.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

this is art and must be treasured as such

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More than anything this has made made me want to play the game. They owe you a check. Which I guess is chapo tradition

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago
[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did Malcolm X ever actually abandon his position of self-defense by any means necessary?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No

MLK Jr. never did either

It's an attempt to whitewash history to convince people that pacifism is The One True Path to Equality™

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

MLK Jr. was not alive to see the bulk of the civil rights act. Most of it was passed a week after his assassination, after the worst riots America had ever seen. Wonder what changed and forced the state's hand?

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Cool, I thought I missed something.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

No, he became less of a Black Nationalist and more accepting of white allies in the struggle, but he continued to believe that armed militias should protect black communities if the cops refuse to, at least as far as I know of him.

[–] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what ended apartheid? well, obviously, our thoughts and prayers finally got to them

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

It was the right argument that finally ended oppression~

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have to give him some credit for immediately backing down and admitting that he actually knows nothing about history. The ideal time to realize this is before you make a sweeping statement about all of human history, but sure, I guess you can do this too...

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Nah, give him no credit, that shit was retweeted by 400 people who will believe he is correct.

[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I would if he had had at least the decency to word that first tweet as "I think ... a history of abject failure", but he straight up spitted it out as fact.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uncle-ho-2 TWO TIME CHAMPS BAYBEEEEEE!!!!

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

3 at minimum isn't it? Japan in 1945, France in 1946-54, USA et al in 1955-75.

[–] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Plus beating the CIA's boy Pol Pot, and China, too!

[–] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately this man is not enough of a liberal to understand that it was the thug Nelson Mandela who normalized the lack of civility we see in Palestine today.

[–] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Just vibes ~~~

You've entered the vibe zone. Come vibe it out with me here.

[–] kkitsuragisleftnut@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Well I originally thought Palestine was justified in fighting back against their oppressors but this guy's vibes based historical analysis made me realize the error of my ways.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

What a 𝒦𝒦𝒦𝓇𝒶𝒸𝓀𝑒𝓇 𝑀𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

notice how the his sole example is an European country

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they need to harness white guy confidence & audactity and put it in a pill or smth

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Apparently that's just cocaine

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

We need to engineer the plague but for white guy confidence.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow that's so weird that the one example the guy gives is one of the rare recent instances of white people fighting their colonizers huh weird

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

us-foreign-policy aside, I'm actually surprised he considers it a success seeing as how most libs find it deplorable

[–] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there anything white Americans love more than preaching from a position of confident ignorance?

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Playing devil's advocate, closely related

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

They certainly like their devils and making excuses for those devils bootlicker

[–] dom@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I may not know anything about this topic.. BUT

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

remember when extreme violence and bad then MLKJ showed up and asked to end racism nicely and then WWII was over and Malcom X and then everything was good until first 911

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

It's simple we uh ~~kill the batman~~ VOTE

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Ellipses make ignorant statements.. sound profound.. galaxy-brain

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

what an absurd comment lmao

in fact its one of the only ways to succeed

[–] sandinista209@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Dudes historical analysis stopped at elementary school.

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

If someone has to show themselves in the midst of giving le epic important speech in their avatar, they're almost certainly a douchebag.

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter