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[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 74 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

i am so sick of americans and their insistence that they should be allowed to speak freely

muzzle em like dogs i say

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And we can't even speak freely. If you say "Fuck the troops. Fuck the police. Fuck America. Fuck Isreal. Fuck white people. Fuck billionaires. Fuck liberals. Fuck conservatives. Fuck centrists. Fuck capitalism. And especially fuck small business tyrants," you will be banned/jailed/expelled/fined/blacklisted or worse. "Free speech" in America always means "Freedom to say slurs, hate speech, and plans for enacting genocide."

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bruh we don't even have the right to tell our boss that they don't feel like family to us

[–] rufuscrispo@hexbear.net 68 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i'm sure this makes sense to someone conversant in the latest right-wing persecution fad, but in practical terms, i have no clue what supposed problem this is a redress of. did someone post a tiktok of a white woman getting owned by the turkish ice cream guys?

[–] regul@hexbear.net 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The courts said they couldn't just restrict Harvard's admission of international students, so they're restricting admission of all international students.

Most elite universities in the US rely on higher fees paid by foreign students to balance their enormous budgets, and elite universities in general are trump adversaries, ergo this.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Even so, I cannot rightfully wrap my head around wtf he is trying to convey here.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If a foreign government prevents an american from saying slurs, all employees of that government are banned from entering the US.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol, wouldn't that mean that for instance German officials can't enter the US because muricans can't go to Germany and wave swastika flags?

Good luck with that I suppose

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

A bit of a convoluted way to impose Juche, but whatever works.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

It's lazy gesturing at the outgroup being the cause of all domestic problems.

Europeans are carriers of the woke mind virus that is destroying America etc. etc.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No international students and vastly decreased research grant funding sure doesn't look good for academia

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

I wish all Burgerland academics good luck learning a second language

[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Man im really glad I work at a school that also apparently has had grievous budget issues for like two decades now hahaha

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

I think this is related to Brazil, Colombia, some EU countries, UK and Australia (I guess?) judges or supreme courts temporary taking down Twitter and Fining Elon Musk.

La Prensa published an Article today explaining that Bolsonaro's son has been in the US trying to get Rubio/Trump to sanction Brazil.

Bolsonaro's son under ethical and legal fire in Brazil - La Prensa (Spanish)

Article (Translated)

Brasilia, May 28 (Prensa Latina) The Workers' Party (PT) filed before the Ethics Council of the Chamber of Deputies a request for impeachment against the licensed legislator Eduardo Bolsonaro for acting today from the United States against Brazilian democratic institutions.

According to the text of the disqualification request, signed by the leader of the PT in the lower house, Lindbergh Farias, and the interim president of the political organization, Humberto Costa, the deputy acts systematically on U.S. territory with the objective of promoting institutional attacks against the Supreme Court.

He also pressures the jurisdiction of that superior court and manages international sanctions against national authorities.

The content highlights that Eduardo Bolsonaro, publicly and repeatedly, declared that “he will only return to Brazil when Minister Alexandre de Moraes (of the Supreme Federal Court (STF) is sanctioned by the United States”.

The statement was supported by meetings with U.S. legislators such as Senator Marco Rubio and Representative Cory Mills, seeking to apply the Magnitsky Act, a foreign policy rule used to sanction alleged human rights violators.

For the PT, these actions constitute a “serious breach of parliamentary decorum”, as they imply abuse of representative functions and conspiracy with foreign actors against the Brazilian State.

In addition, the party accuses the parliamentarian removed from his mandate of financing part of his actions through funds from an online donation campaign promoted by his father, former president Jair Bolsonaro, whose stated objective was another.

The document stresses that the deputy's actions “directly affect the STF and national sovereignty”, which violates the ethical core of the legislative function.

Now, the Ethics Council must decide whether or not to accept the process.

If it admits it, it initiates another one that may culminate in a vote in the plenary of the lower house, in which a qualified majority (2/3 of the votes) is required for impeachment.

At the same time, the Supreme Court, at the request of the Attorney General's Office, opened an investigation into Eduardo Bolsonaro and also requested that the Federal Police take a statement from his father, on suspicion that he is financing his son's activities in the United States, where he has been living since he left office in March.

Farias also filed a criminal complaint with the Federal Public Prosecutor's Office against the congressman, accusing him of coercion in the course of proceedings and requested his imprisonment for “treason and obstruction of justice”.

To date, there has not been a previous case of cassation of a deputy for “international actions against national institutions”, which would be a new legal precedent.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 55 points 3 days ago (3 children)

a birthright over which foreign governments have no authority

Setting aside the utter hypocrisy of this coming out of the mouth of an imperial statesman, is Rubio trying to argue that the laws of foreign nations do not apply to traveling Americans?

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

So basically US military priveleges?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

International Criminal law doesn't, why not foreign law as well?

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

Anyone up for a prank where we get a certain famously libel-suit-happy author banned from traveling to the US?

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 45 points 3 days ago

They also kinda suspended J1 visas. I've hosted like eight exchange students, and the host agency was SURE that they wouldn't fuck with J1 because it's purely a goodwill thing. Idk why they thought this administration gave two shits about good will.

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some 60 year old CIA guy walks into a Chinese university dressed like a tiktok zoomer. He tries to bring up Uyghur genocide during a math lecture. The professor tells him to leave. He pulls out a piece of paper saying the professor has be nice and answer his questions or the US will sanction China.

At least that's how it plays out in their heads.

[–] FanofOatmeal@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

also the CIA guy is mayo and the Chinese students are confused as to why he's squinting really hard for some strange reason

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is 100% about that time Brazil banned xitter and fined them money, he has been seething about the judge who did it

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's now illegal to be mean to Elon Musk when he streams.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

I think it's related to that. Elon has been fined, sued and had his social media temporary banned in Brazil, and some other countries, after he decided not only to refuse to obey the Brazilian Supreme Court, but to attack a conservative judge that the far-right hates bc the far-right tried to kill said judge and he ordered the arrest of the people who attempted to kill him.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

Awesome! We're banning AIPAC! That's what he means, right? Because that's the only foreign organization I can think of undermining free speech in the United States.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

They got really mad when Brazil tried to ban Xitter...

The US garden can never be independent but libs will ask me why Brazil allies with Russia and China...

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

freeze-peach fuck Israel free Palestine

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

fined, harassed, and even charged, supressing speech

thats just ye ol' fascist strategy of accusing others of doing what they themselves are doing.

specially ironic when they mention latin america. i say good riddance and fuck off, they can be a declining empire by themselves.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

This is just 100% about persons who are complicit in censoring americans i.e. anyone who calls Musk a fascist isn't it. The other option to pursue foreign officials is entirely logistically nonviable because anybody in charge of it is either going to be too important to never step foot on US soil again or pretty much impossible to trace unless you do a blanket ban on people named Smith / Müller / Martin / Martinez after a true patriot shows you their local court ordered fine, jurisdiction of 20.000 people, signed by somebody with that name

[–] shath@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

how terrible

[–] buh@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Shou Chew getting deported for banning amerikkkrakkkers on tiktok