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You in BLM who have adopted as a slogan “I can’t breathe” – the words of George Floyd lying on the street with a policeman’s knee on his neck suffocating and killing him – how can you avert your gaze as Hamas, a murderous terror organization, suffocates Israeli civilians to death? Because I have news for you: We too are feeling a stranglehold, and we too can’t breathe.

We have not been able to breathe for 20 years now, during which we have been compelled to suffer and somehow live with missiles and rockets falling on our children, and this in order to avoid insofar as possible harming innocent people in the Gaza Strip.

We have been compelled to suffer and somehow live with slave revolts and muskets falling on our children, and this in order to avoid insofar as possible harming innocent slaves in the cotton field.

So let me tell you something about Israel, where most of the Jews are Brown people who came from the Arab countries and North Africa. Alongside them are Jews from Ethiopia, who are Black, in case you have forgotten.

Jamie, pull up the Israeli policies regarding Ethiopian Jews.

“Multi-culturalism” is not a progressive agenda or a slogan in Israel. It is our reality. This is a reality in which Jews who were persecuted in their countries of origin around the world returned to their ancestral land, where they created a liberal and democratic national home.

Democracy is when you exile millions of Palestinians into ghettos and restrict their movement, political rights, and basic necessities, and proceed to develop some of the most comprehensive and invasive surveillance technology the world has ever seen. Well, I’m not a liberal, so I know that democracy doesn’t automatically mean good - Israel is democratic. Many Israelis support these policies and only get upset when Palestine isn’t being oppressed enough.

And the struggle is not between “White rulers” and “oppressed indigenous people.” It is not between Blacks and Whites. Nor is it a struggle between Israelis and Palestinians. This struggle is between good and evil. Period. It is a war against one of the most dangerous and extreme terrorist groups in the world.

So true. Glad to see the writer came around to seeing the IDF for what it is.

And those Jews who survived the Holocaust in Europe created an alliance of brotherhood and stood beside Martin Luther King and the Blacks in their struggle for equal rights in the United States in the 1960s, the days of racial segregation. And there is no need for an occult reader to know what Dr. King, the great leader, would have said about your doctrine, BLM, against Jews. You have completely lost your moral compass and ability to stand on the right side of history.

Maybe King would’ve likely disproved of the praise for Hamas. But something tells me he wouldn’t have been too compassionate with Israel and the US working intimately to beat and kill minorities. Something also tells me that King was not the only important black figure during the civil rights era.

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[–] nightshade@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An autistic Palestinian man was shot by Israeli police at around the same time, and Palestinians held protests for both him and George Floyd.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/01/palestinian-lives-matter-israeli-police-killing-of-autistic-man-draws-us-comparison

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

But you see, Palestinians only protested for propaganda and they don’t actually care about him smuglord

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Alongside them are Jews from Ethiopia, who are Black, in case you have forgotten.

and Israel forcibly sterilized a bunch of them

[–] flan@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why are israelis so cringe

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Settlers tend to be that way after you strike back. It makes them feel inferior that they got caught off guard

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It's like the whole anti-woke movement.

grillman: "Hey! Two wrongs don't make a right, you're only going to further the cycle of vengeance. Therefore, the first wrong is completely justified and I will continue to support your oppression until you learn to stop being so punitive, why can't you just forgive and forget like I do?"

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

"Israelis are being murdered"

there was one attack like 3 weeks ago, Israelis are all back to brunch already. meanwhile everyone in Gaza is either being murdered, losing family members, or having their houses bombed.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So let me tell you something about Israel, where most of the Jews are Brown people who came from the Arab countries and North Africa. Alongside them are Jews from Ethiopia, who are Black, in case you have forgotten.

I-I-I have a black friend. See I'm not racistgrillman

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

A black friend who I forcibly sterilized

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Israelis with red hair and blue eyes speaking to you in their only language, English, in which they are barely fluent, trying to convince you of their rich ethnic heritage but all I hear is cracker cracker mayonnaise marshmellows bologna apartheid

[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

It's pretty gross when a genocidal apartheid state crybullies the targets of its ally's genocide

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Obviously this is absurd, mostly fictitious, and scolding. Do they really think that this would actually appeal to anyone who genuinely cares about racial justice as opposed to just being offensive?

Israeli-discourse (that is allowed and promoted, since anti-genocide voices are silenced) are continuing in the proud tradtion of white South Africans in not only being an evil apartheid state, but also being some of the most aggressively unpleasant, arrogant blowhards imaginable.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The fucking audacity to portray Israelis as PoC to support Zionism is astounding

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an element of truth to it that's been totally obscured by the Al-Asqa Flood. The latest government had been as content to use the IDF on recalcitrant liberal zionists and social democrats as any Palestinian. Even in the heart of Tel Aviv, we were beginning to witness the monster of the Israeli state devour its original base of support to satisfy the extremists in the Settlement movement.

But once the focus changed to Gaza, and the entire subject of conversation became "How much genocide is legitimate if I say 'Hamas started it!' loudly enough?", we've totally lost track of how the police state of Israel has begun to prey on lay Israelis right alongside their Palestinian peers. The day-to-day brutality of local police has been drowned out below the sound of a carpet bombing of Gaza and the screams of whole families being exterminated.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The whole "ashes of a red heifer, secret third temple mount rebuild, 500 priests training in a secret underground compound," conspiracy theory rabbit hole is not something I would have ever expected to be reading about as a contemporary religious event

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Honestly the racial identity of Jewish people does more to expose the constructed nature of race than it does to explain the relationship between Jewish people and white people or people of color.

It’s not a useful lens for understanding Jewishness which proves the inaccuracy of the lens rather than explaining anything about Jewishness.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

The fucking audacity to portray Israelis as PoC to support Zionism is astounding

Most especially since Israel was sterilizing Ethiopian Jews into the 90's.

Honestly I think the category of PoC is not as useful in understanding the history of the occupation of Palestine, as it is in American history.

[–] ArsenLupin@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Next Up / Previously

[–] jimmyjazx@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

This is their version of blue lives matter. The people with literally all the power are the real victims.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Not just Ethiopian, Even Mizrahi and sometimes even Shepardic/Ashkenazi Jews who don't fit the us-foreign-policy get the short end.

I'm fairly sympathetic to why the Zionists got the support needed to establish Israel (The Soviets had likely seen a few too many extermination camps, though the reasons of the Western powers were far more cynical) even if it was a shit idea instead of throwing Prussia or the Rhineland at them. But make no mistake, it's not even a Zionist state, it's a state for white, European Zionists in which other Jews are tolerated until some settlement wants expanding. And that's another compound of the endless horror, that it doesn't even do what they say it does.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Thousands of Palestinians are currently buried under rubble awaiting rescue, they literally can't breathe

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago
[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

This is easily one of the most disgusting things I have ever read.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago
[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

A useful rule to keep in mind when you're not sure how to tell who to root for:

https://streamable.com/gh15yw

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Colonizers don't deserve to breathe

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

0 mentions of Palestinians in this other than saying that this isn't a struggle between Israelis and Palestinians.

[–] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't think this has been said yet but they can't even get their facts straight... I'm sure George Floyd said I can't breathe as he was slowly being suffocated to death by police who were trained using techniques that Israelis used. But. That slogan has originally started in 2014 with the same use of force to legally execute Eric Garner, again by the same technique that was taught by Israelis to our state mandated jackboots. Edit:(Yes it's a new account, my phone stopped working completely and I no longer know my login info for my other semi new account)

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I no longer know my login info for my other semi new account

Have you tried password1234?

[–] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Y'know what, I hadn't. If the mods have reset it to something basic like that and it does work I'll lmao. Lul

Edit: no dice lol. It's ok I like my new and totally original name anyways :p

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just double checking that I was right on that one. I really hate the wikipedia article, like it's just a still frame of him being brutalized and choked.

[–] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Damn, I just checked it to see. I guess he wasn't worth having an article about his life, just his brutalization moments before death... If I try googling Eric Garner wiki, I only get back 'Killing of Eric Garner' or a wiki article immediately under it of Erica Garner.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Multi-culturalism” is not a progressive agenda or a slogan in Israel. It is our reality. This is a reality in which Jews who were persecuted in their countries of origin around the world returned to their ancestral land, where they created a liberal and democratic national home.

And had the founding father of Zionism, Theodore Herzl, succeeded with the 'Uganda scheme' and Israel been formed in what is today a part of Kenya, I'm sure you could've found an excuse for why Israel ancestrally deserved to exist in Kenya. Most if not all of the arguments Israel proposes for why it's good they exist they could use in Kenya too with the support of the 'international' community:

"If not for Israel, you'd just have another African government in the region"

"Israel is a progressive nation unlike its African neighbors"

"If Ugandans are allowed to return, they'd become a majority and the country would become a repressive conservative country"

"There are other African countries, why can't we have just this small place?"

"There was no Uganda, it was part of the British empire at the time!"

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Few people know about this. Zionists and centrists think that Israel is some natural home for all Jews when in reality it's just a western colonial project that was going to manifest in a whole different continent

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago
[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

At this point it doesn't even matter if they realize it, I don't care if Slavjob Hotsogovich has to invent ten new levels of meta ironic posturing to explain it, but this is satire and I will not be convinced otherwise

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

somehow i can never stopped being shocked by the way zionists seem to live in an entirely different reality. it's one thing if they're unaware of the conditions in Gaza. Like many Americans live a block away from conditions of awful human agony and suffering without even being aware of it. But to believe, to truly believe, that it is Palestinians with their knees on the necks of the oppressed Israelis you have to actually have recieved multiple concussions.

Or be 80 years old. biden-forgor

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

My first question to black Israelis who are pro-zionism, admittedly extremely harsh, is "were you among those who were sterilized?"

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hello Zionist, Jew here. None of us, except for kapos like Ben Shapiro, have fond feelings about the Holocaust. Why should we do ethnic cleansing of our own? If I suggested Biden to nuke all of Texas to stop the far-right, people would rightfully so call me crazy. Interesting how westerns claim they like individualism so much, but boy does the idea of "guilt by association is bad, actually." elude them.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Go on Instagram and look up the location tag for Tel Aviv, look at how much they're struggling.

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn'trealis be like "I can't breathe without more lebensraum!"

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry I’m a little claustrophobic. I need a couple thousand more miles of land