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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 126 points 1 year ago (39 children)

If you vote for Genocide Joe you endorse genocide, no amount of cope will change that

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago

Yup.

Similar to how they have a three paragraph response ready for how the guy who outlawed a strike is pro union.

"But he got them what theybwere asking for within 3 months"

He stopped a strike, full stop.

Even if he did get their requests 2 months later (spoiler, he absolutely fucking didnt) that's two months and multiple biohazardous train derailment later when he could have done literally nothing and they would have gotten it immediatly.

But libs are going with the time proven electoral strategy of telling anybody with a valid complaint they're wrong and don't know how politics works.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been a staunch lesser evilist for a long time and even argued for it here, but Genocide support is my red line. If Biden changes tune and forces a ceasefire (I was going to say support, but of course biden could actually FORCE one signle handedly) then I might change my tune.

Granted, I didnt vote for him in 2020 either but that was because I dont live in a swing state. Its only because of this red line that I now am against voting for him regardless of where you live.

Like, I still have trouble not seeing FPTP voting in america as a trolley problem, and I havent intelectually wrapped my head around it yet, but I know Biden crossed a line for me and thats that.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't want to come across as an accelerationist, but I am almost certain Democrats would have endorsed a ceasefire if Trump was president. He has a way of sharpening the contradictions so even the most false consciousness pilled lib can see the correct choice.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

I don't think you're necessarily wrong actually. Dems opposed moving the embassy to Jerusalem when Trump was president IIRC.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right but not necessarily because Trump heightens the contradictions. I think it's just simple partisan politics. Supporting Israel is obligatory if you want to play ball with the American ruling class, either President would be supporting the genocide. But when you're the opposition you have a lot to gain from taking the objectively correct position of condemning genocide, not a lot to lose (maybe some AIPAC funding but that might not outweigh the cost of staying silent).

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

I've been saying this for a while.

When there's a republ8can president liberals at least provide lip service to doing progressive things.

The only difference between a Democrat and republican president is when there's a Democrat president liberals tell vulnerable people to shut up and stop complaining because they're making them look bad.

Like how the concentration camps on the border and dejoy at the usps stopped being an issue overnight.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 114 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The dems are presiding over both a trans genocide and a palestinian genocide and this loser thinks voting for them makes things "better".

[–] jabrd@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The kids are still in cages lest everyone forget. Seems like the whole fucking country has

[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 year ago

Don't worry about it. It will be hot button issue #1 once Trump takes office again.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget presiding over the stripping away of abortion rights, funding and arming Nazis in Ukraine and Israel, escalating world war on multiple fronts. Biden is the worst president of my lifetime

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think Bush was still worse.

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[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget the inherent gendercide in the new anti-abortion standard that they refuse to lift a finger against

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[–] jaeme@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The venn diagram of people who say this and the people who will tell you that "America" is a democracy and that China is a dictatorship of brainwashed Chinese factory workers is a circle.

Libs have no idea what "America" is, just that it has to be protected because the alternative is self reflection.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

they are the same who see america being a racist shithole and proclaim "this isnt us!"

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago

“I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at not voting!”

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't Shaun a Br*tish person? Skullboy can't even vote in the election they're mad about. Why are people so obsessed about genocide Joe that they want to convince people in other countries that they should vote for him if they were allowed to do so hypothetically?

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They're actually mad at him BECAUSE He's a British person saying this, because he's "influencing an election he wont feel the effects of" or whatever.

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Siri, how many countries have a US military base?

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao imagine thinking Air Strip One (1984 isn’t great to reference, but the idea behind that name is pretty spot on) won’t feel the effects of their master’s election.

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[–] rafflesia@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

this libshit being conveyed through a nazitoss comic really is the cherry on top chefs-kiss

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You have two options:

-vote for the person who will stab you

-vote for the person who won't pull the knife out

[–] edge@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

More like:

-vote for the person who already stabbed you

-vote for the person who said he’d pull the knife out but still hasn’t (edit: and is actively stabbing someone else)

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[–] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except it's people hyperbolically interpreting Shaun telling people to stick to their principles as endorsing voting for Trump

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These people are pathetic

It's too bad Biden was busy somewhere else when Roe v Wade got overturned.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The logic of "its an endorsement of Trump to not vote for anyone but its not an endorsement of Biden to vote for Biden because trolley problem" is absolutely fucking omniverse brain ass logic. Incredible.

And thats from someone who for a long time did see American electoral politics as basically a trolley problem. So I can totally understand how someone like that chooses to vote for Biden and doesnt see it as an endorsement of everything he does. What I cant understand is how they see it as an endorsement of Trump to NOT VOTE AT ALL (or vote third party).

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They already struck down Roe v Wade, and Biden has made it clear he’s not willing to do anything to negate that that would take affect in his lifetime so I’m not sure what rights they think Biden is guarding.

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What good is voting for "the lesser of two evils" if literally both fucking options results in genocide?

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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

I just don't get them. Yeah, throw your ballot in for the genocidal monsters. Then do nothing, or maybe write some letters that the congressional aides have spam filters set up for.

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they heard he supports the irish republicans and got confused, surely

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Every single one of Shaun's replies could be replaced by that horrible liberal saying BUDDY, CHAMP, GUY tiktok and it would have the exact same effect

These people are incapable of learning from history

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[–] fusion513@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

The whole principle behind electoral politics is to give your symbolic consent to be governed by a person. Therefore not voting is a principled stand if you don't consent to be governed by any of the clowns being presented. Its really that simple.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

#votebluenomattergenocide #voteforevil #thelesserevil #blueisthelesserevilcolor

[–] SpasmodicColon@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What the liberal fails to understand is that the power now lies in the leftist hands.

In 2016, it was unknown how bad trump could be.

In 2020, we were told "see, unless you want more of this, you better hold your nose, vote blue, and then we'll push left"

But in the past 4 year, much to the surprise of no one who's paid attention, there has only been a right-ward shift. So now, it's not "hey leftist, if you don't blue you get trump!", it's more like "he democrats, unless you actually shift left, you're getting more of trump"

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