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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 75 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Israel - "Flawed" "Democracy" where majority of the poeple don't have citizenship or rights.

These people would call Apartheid South Africa a "democracy".

Also India being in the green is hilarious.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago

These people would call Apartheid South Africa a "democracy".

I think they literally actually did thjs.

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 58 points 10 months ago (7 children)

How is fucking Saudi Arabia not the darkest red unless you are blatantly giving them bonus points for being a western ally. SA is about as autocratic as you get.

[–] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

"Just because it is a literal monarchy where no one votes doesn't mean they can't support Western Democratic Values ®" the person who made this map probably.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They rank Saudi Arabia as “more democratic” than the PRC…

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

Egypts democractically elected dictatorship is more democractic than China or Cuba. Okay right sure.

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[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 56 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mexico changes from the neolib party that used to ruled the for 70 years via corruption and oppression to a 5/10 socdem party

drops from flawed democracy to hybrid regime

Lets goo lets-fucking-go

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[–] SovietWaveGoddess@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its literally a map of how much economic influence the US has over other countries

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

But they made up numbers -- with decimals! -- so it's official

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ukraine banned a Zelenskillion political parties in the time since the invasion lmao, with the exact reasoning of foreign/enemy influence that is deemed unacceptable for all the socialist "regimes"

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

Well yeah. Russian influence is bad because its a bad country, so its ok for Ukraine to ban pro-Russian parties.

But the west are the good guys! So if a bad country fights western influence thats evil!

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Democracy is when there fewer political parties to choose from, and the more parties you ban, the more democratic it is

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[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

melanin index

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Germany 8.8 when they had the same chancellor for 16 years in Angela Merkel lol. And then Evo Morales tries the same thing, and Bolivia gets a 4.5.

us-foreign-policy

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Westerners when Angela Merkel stays for 16 years: porky-happy

Westerners when Evo Morales wants to stay for 16 years: porky-scared-flipped

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lmao, Bo-"we're not calling it a US backed coup"-livia at a 4.5. data-laughing

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[–] WalterBongjammin@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Britain, full democracy: Last two PMs elected by no one other than the Tory Party members, Leader of the opposition (and presumably next PM) elected to his role based on a completely fraudulent campaign that also broke campaign funding laws, previous leader of the opposition faced a coup from his own MPs only months after winning the leadership and then spent his entire tenure being smeared by them and their friends in the press chefs-kiss

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

also still a monarchy. like straight up. not even like vestigial royal family, just straight up a monarchy where the king gets your shit if you die and the royal family keeps interferring and blocking shit

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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

You can tell that the mayo countries aren't actually democracies because they've all had non-white people elected as presidents

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So they mention that it is at it's "lowest point" since they started tracking it in 2006. I think it is pretty clear that this just measures how compliant or subservient to the US a nation is. Surely even the libbest of libs would notice how dumb it is that Russia dropped almost a whole point in a year, despite no actual changes to their government and therefore their democracy.

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[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 10 months ago

Democracy is when the bourgeoisie has full control over the political system but pretend they don’t by holding sham elections every few years apparently.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How in the fuck is Mexico down? It has to be nationalizing natural resources.

Also lol at Japan. The LDP has been in control since the 50s with little exception.

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

Saudi Arabia more democratic than China LMAO

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy with no legislative body, is more democratic than China or Iran.

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[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Europe alone getting a zoom in scope where other areas that are as dense with nations and therefore hard to read at this scale not getting one, while simultaneously just straight up blocking out other countries, is all you need to know about this map

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Look at how they avoid calling attention to Israel, actively conducting a genocide as we speak, being colored green.

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[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Normalize calling western governments regimes instead of administrations

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

call them the evil empire to simplify it for the libs

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Argentina will be a perfect 10/10 in the updated 2023 map. Thanks Milei!

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

How is Portugal less of a democracy than Spain??

Why is Paraguay, Mexico, Peru and Equador classified as Hybrid Regime? Is it because Paraguay and Mexico have been electing the same party for 70 years? Why is South Africa with 7.05 and fucking Japan with 8.33!? I mean, they do elect other parties sometimes so shouldn't it be a Flawed Democracy then?

Chile: 8.22

lol, the same country that privatized water and social security, literally pays nothing if you're old and retired.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Mexico elected AMLO that’s why they dropped their “democracy” score.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

this has been a real international moment international-community-1 international-community-2

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

Source: the America Burger Eagle Institute

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

In what world is the UK a democracy?

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 10 months ago

Lmao France is classified as a full democracy. The famously democratic Macron regime, such a shining example of democracy.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

what a joke

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

The numerology required for libs to feel comfortable with their white supremacy.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Greenland looking different lately

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

WHo made this and/or where is it posted? I just want to write some...uh...friendly letters to them. Democraticallly, of course.

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[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago
[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

vibes based international order

[–] material_delinquent@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

I am very groggy, but the way a "democracy index" gets its scores is flawed - theoretically because they work with bourg definition of parliamentary democracy, methodologicaly because sometimes its shit like (S)Expats giving their vibes-based score of the press in a country where they mostly mingle with the upper class (it looks like ""average joe"" middle class to them) or other pretty invalid, subjective or unreliable methods. It's sometimes funny that the US is even failing the more scientific ones that have bourg democracy standards.

Politically, a lot of these indices are tied to letter agencies or corporations, which makes it very easy to clown on them (besides shit like Libya being more democratic than Venezuela)

Obviously it's a somewhat silly idea to measure "democracy" to begin with since "democracy" is a very contested notion.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Australia, famously a full democracy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

Edit: Lmao Chilie (and pretty sure Spain, too) have constitutions written by card-carrying fascist dictators.

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Democracy index from a pro Pinochet magazine.

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