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lol we gave a narrative compulsion to a character who had a drive that was largely centered around not wanting the responsibility and fear of failure.
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Them remaking star wars: "Yeah so we thought it was kinda silly that Luke initially refuses to join the rebellion, didn't seem very heroic, so we changed that. Same goes for Han solo seemingly leaving his friends behind. Also it was super mean of him to respond 'I know' to Leia's 'I love you' it just didn't make sense"
Pacing and Leading, what's that? A horse shampoo?
lol we gave a narrative compulsion to a character who had a drive that was largely centered around not wanting the responsibility and fear of failure.
They seem to have forgotten that Aang was barely a teenager when he was told "Hey, kiddo, you're the chosen one!" 
"So you've gotta stop being a kid and be an adult immediately."
Then later learns that him doing what makes total sense (and is objectively a correct action) as a kid, not wanting to take on the scary responsibilities of adulthood when they're still literally a child, winds up with everybody/thing he remembers with love and fondness were brutally destroyed.
Okay, sure. But! Have you considered how much of a bummer that would be for the audience?
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"you were gone for 100 years and war broke out!"
"I see you, I hear you, you're valid"
Aang, waking up from 100 years frozen in an iceberg: "Well that happened!" 
Isn't the story beat "kid fucks around until visiting the old air temple and seeing his dead mentor causes him to freak the fuck out and realize the implications of the war"?
Why do a coming of age story without character development? Why doesn't Korra start out as a child yelling, "I'm the Avatar! I'm gonna do my best and respect other points of view along the way!"
Its wild to me. it's almost like going "Moby Dick is a story about a man trying to catch a whale, but for some reason the author wasted a bunch of time on other stuff. In our remake we're only gonna show what matters: That bit where the whale drags him under."
Or really just "we're gonna cut to the bone and show the only thing that matters: The climax".
Did this producer grow up watching vines exclusively?
"Avatar is about fighting fire lord ozai, so we've cut everything that isn't the fight"
That bit where the whale drags him under.
Uh, spoilers much?
I was going to get around to reading it, honest.
Most of the book can be skipped truthfully. There's about 80 chapters of whale facts and the first of those starts with "I know all there is to know about whales, so let me set the record straight: whales are fish" and then he goes on to list things which whales are larger than.
He also stops the narrative dead in its tracks to go into an essay about the symbolic power of the color white, in case you, the reader, didn't get it.
It's nice to have a story that isn't full of all the symbolism or metaphors. Just a guy trying to catch a whale
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Only cowards use subtext!
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Because character development is slow and boring and gets in the way of the ~~ spectacle ~~ that Netflix audiences want. Character development is for children. Adults demand non-stop action and ironic quips.
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So all protagonists must be 100% correct and good from the start and know everything and be perfect? No character or narrative growth?
Also why must everything "advance the plot"? Why can't Aang just do things because their fun? That is a way of telling a story and "advancing the plot" in itself.
Again, if this is how they are dealing with characters, wtf are they going to do with Zuko?
Filler episodes are good
I mean you need some of them, if every episode is made up of full throttle battles and major plot twists, it can get exhausting and actually diminish the value of those plot points/twists and battles. At that point, it might as well be a movie.
Though there is also the problem of too much filler, but filler episodes play a key part in pacing, and providing background information and motivations of characters, fleshing them out.
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Ok. Between this and reading about how they toned down (or removed) Sokka's sexism that he overcomes by being humbled by strong female characters, I am now convinced live action Airbender will be bad.
As is tradition
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I'm not super duper mad or anything, I wasn't gonna watch it either way (Legend of Korra was lib as fuck). I just think Avatar was a very tight solid story, and it's fascinating how much some producers can look at solid character arcs and not understand them, why they're there and how they work
"Why wouldn't this traumatized 10 year old child rush across an unfamiliar world to immediately become a super-weapon in someone else's war literally subjective hours after his entire people and culture were destroyed in a super-naturally empowered genocide?"
We're also making Aang 37 so we can explore more mature themes. We think the audience will really like that better.
Also we're removing element bending to make it more realistic. Aang is now a brilliant scientist who has qualms about dropping his wonder weapon on Japan.
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It reads like they're trying very hard to justify cutting all the "unimportant" episodes where we slowly have the characters better understand each other and the world was better fleshed out. All so that the new show can be 10 episodes a season.
Remaking things has never appealed to me, I don't get it, I have the original good thing on my shelf, i will watch it as I want. Your new thing seems like yoy wanted money but didn't want to risk making something new. Cowardly producers want more money but are so afraid of producing a thing that isn't instantly popular.
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So whats the reason for freezing himself then lol? Did it as a bit?
Prolly had a vision about that too
And especially as the series went on, Seasons 2 and 3 are a lot more mature in theme than, say, Season 1 was. So for us, it was about striking that right balance, of making sure you were true to the DNA of the original. But at the same time, we had to make it a serialized Netflix drama, which meant it couldn't just be for kids. It had to also appeal to the people who are big fans of Game of Thrones. And so, it had to feel grounded and mature and adult in that way too. So that's, like I said, the tightrope that we have to walk.
Who was asking for this? I don't remember ever speaking with another fan of ATLA and them saying "I wish it was more like Game of Thrones". Why does it have to appeal to an older audience? Most of its fans are probably in their 20's or older, and we are still big fans of the original show.
Also "mature" apparently means "they swear now" to these people lol. What're the odds we'll see some gratuitous sex scene?
Aang and Katara eventually get married, so we just have them fuck right off the bat in this one
What're the odds we'll see some gratuitous sex scene
Hopefully not the characters are kids and teenagers
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Because Game of Thrones was very popular and made lots of money. That's all these people and the executives they work for understand.
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Just make a new property set in the same universe and then they won't be bound by atla's plot or characters at all.
Stop rehashing shit for the love of God.
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There is literally a whole TvTropes page about this, "Refusing the Call" and "The Call knows where you live".
Yeah some guy wrote a book about a dude with a thousand faces and he refuses to call a bunch of people too :ricky:
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Look making Aang develop as a character and learn when it’s necessary to get serious is too much work. Can’t we just do a magical exposition dump into his head to solve all these pesky things like “motivation” or “growth”
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By the end of the Netflixization, its just a vaguely Asian coded martial arts magic Punsher retread.
But still liberal so the magic punisher will refuse to kill the fascist dictator but instead just metaphorically take away his soul and literally imprison him for life in a dark cell below ground, which is much better.
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Asian-coded MCU slop. I'd bet money on it.
You can't make this shit up, c'mon, a literal child can point out why this is wrong.
i am anti avatar (both blue people and tla) on principle but come the fuck on. don't make your show that you're aiming at an older audience less complex and interesting than the one for 7 year olds
Give me the people who think like this and I will make Stalin look like Bernie Sanders
lol he has a vision
Making the plot dependent on “it was a dream” is as lazy and cliche at the beginning of the story (to drive the plot) as it is at the end (to explain away all issues and ties up all loose ends)
Look, I just finished repressing the Wheel of Time show doing all this shit. It's very uncool of Hollywood to immediately retread it and put me in a position where I have to face it all again so soon.
Here's hoping Aang at least gets some agency in his own show?
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Gonna see if I can't find a bootleg recording of the Ember Island Players theatrical retelling of the story
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