this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
204 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15911 readers
7 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

They’re from Portland, Oregon you can’t make this shit up lol.

The Chinese text in the title translates as “brainwashed.” Top kek.

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/9SIkZmnr2U

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 140 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Feel bad for the guy finding out his wife is a deranged conspiracy theorist

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Comes with the risk of marrying a white American, vast majority of them are politically deranged and disconnected from reality

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 97 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Top comment:

Edit: I just want to add that I don't think this is an issue that needs to ruin a marriage. In the US, there are plenty of couples who have healthy marriages but one is a republican and the other is democrat with very different outlooks on things. They make it work by given each other freedom it express their beliefs outside of their home while focusing on the things they have in common at home.

That's how you know these liberals are unserious bozos. If China was actually committing a genocide and your husband was denying it, that should be a dealbreaker. That would make him a fascist and worse. But, y'know, they don't really care about that, it's just about performing unquestioning loyalty to the empire.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 94 points 8 months ago (8 children)

... his intransigence related to the real facts of Xinjiang may eventually lead to our divorce.

Imagine getting a divorce over propaganda lmayo

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 63 points 8 months ago

Getting divorced because you believe Adrian Zenz more than your husband

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] Des@hexbear.net 94 points 8 months ago (1 children)

spoiler alert:

there is no scholarly work about the subject because there is no subject

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 69 points 8 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 91 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'll read any scholarly work, as long as it's US propaganda

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 91 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The thing that kills me with these Uygher genocide fabricators is 9-outta-10 how Islamophobic they are in any other context

These are motherfuckers who will sit there praising the war on terror which HAS KILLED millions of Muslims while they shed crocodile tears for imaginary massacres

They're cynical scum all of them

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 89 points 8 months ago (1 children)

liberalism I genuinely believe a genocide is happening and my contribution to stopping it is divorcing my husband

[–] Farmer_Heck@lemmygrad.ml 82 points 8 months ago (2 children)

this time on; White Westerner ruins their own relationship by not listening to their partner who is from the place in question, and has a far more intimate understanding of the situation and refuses to accept direct sources because of their own political bias.

seems to me the whitey did the liberal thing, wherein they marry someone from a culture they deem lesser so they can "rescue" them from it. Bro went to FU and Yale, if anyone would understand direct sources and intellectual honesty, it's them.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 76 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I (Chinese) just went on a couple dates with a white girl and we seem to hit it off but this is actually a concern I have.

She's not Zionist, pro-LGBT and has kind of shaken off the conservative Christian upbringing but being in Australia and surrounded by Australian media, and has concerns about China.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago (5 children)

If she's dating you and seems to have an open mind then there's hope. My wife was convinced by media in her country that she'd get hate crimed the minute she stepped off the plane in China. We went for a week and she had a wonderful time and keeps talking about wanting to visit again.

Sometimes the best way to disprove a lie is first hand exposure to the truth.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 71 points 8 months ago (10 children)
[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Women often confuse these things for intelligent

The most sexist thing I've read all week

Edit: I didn't read the rest of the comment. Possible it gets more sexist

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 49 points 8 months ago

That compelled me to check out their account. It's so bad. 100% map game brained, and think that the real world follows the same rule as crusader kings. No genocide in Palestine, it's more like putting down a prison riot, and if the Palestinians don't like it they should move. Chinese women are HOT, china bad.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

holy fuck lmao the absolute exemplar of clueless

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What a tedious writing style

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 8 months ago

That has to be a bit

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 62 points 8 months ago (3 children)

OK how about the official United Nations report? The one they spent months on and libs thought it was gonna blow the lid off the thing, and instead the UN (Michele Bachelet and her team, specifically) confirmed there isn’t a genocide and was only able to offer some mild criticism of China (which frankly, to me read like “well we can’t just not criticize them for anything, so here’s some ticky tack stuff”).

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 61 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I will not read the comments because I prefer my headcanon that they were all just not-immune-to-propaganda

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wouldnt call the comments good..fair bit of libs. There is some push back as well though.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 61 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He claims they have never lost a war

She's got him there. They lost Vietnam.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Evwryone loses Viet Nam. And Afghanistan. They've got plot armour. In 200,000 years, when humanity is gone, the planet is solely populated by uplifted mantises and a life form that evolved from Shamrock Shake residue, the mantis capitals will be HCMC and Kabul.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago

Hope he finds someone better to spend the rest of his life with mao-wave

[–] super_mario_69@hexbear.net 57 points 8 months ago

Oh my god. This post is too much. It's great, I love it. "I want evidence but only the kind that proves me right, thanks". Yanks are something else

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Tbf any Chinese marrying a white American is an idiot because majority of them will do shit like this

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Stereotypes of Anglos in Asia:

  • Americans will lecture you about your own country.
  • Brits will bitterly complain to you about everything.
  • Canadians will passively aggressively complain to you about everything, and bitterly complain behind your back.
  • Australians are drunk and obnoxious.
  • New Zealanders are Australian.
load more comments (8 replies)
[–] buh@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago (3 children)

He claims they have never lost a war

xigma-male

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

China did lose a war.

spoilerA war for the hearts and minds of Americans trans-sad

[–] Des@hexbear.net 54 points 8 months ago

there was also that embarrassing Vietnam thing but seems like one of those great missteps of history

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago (9 children)

That's one thing I wish would die with reddit, the demand for scholarly sources. I got into too many arguments about racism that ended in request for scholarly articles. Not everything is studied dipshits, people aren't making peer reviewed articles for fun, it needs funding and resources. Xinjiang is a real place, like China, you can really just go there.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If you don't give me a citation showing that Xinjiang is both real AND a place you can go to right now I'm not gonna believe you AND you will look like a fool

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Xinjiang is a real place

uhhhhhh source?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 8 months ago (2 children)

he can't be all that smart if he married this twit

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It can take a while sometimes for the red flags to start showing

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is why we say they act like conspiracy theorists about this. This is what conspiracy theories do to relationships, they destroy them, the conspiracy theory is non-negotiable, and must be accepted, and no amount of evidence against it can ever disprove it, and it becomes a larger and larger part of the conspiracy theorist's life, consuming and destroying who they were before they adopted the conspiracy.

We often poke fun at Zenz here for his complete incompetence in proving his claims, but this was never actually about scholarly investigation, this was always framed as a conspiracy theory, it was always designed to weasel its way into the impulsive and emotional part of the brain, to shut down the ability to actually think about this. The "evidence" may be completely non-existent, but that's not the point, the point is that it makes people feel scared and upset and brave for fighting the evil enemy. They tie their sense of self-worth to this and it becomes their identity, and getting them to admit it is wrong would make them the "bad guy" that they've been hating all this time, so it's an awful uphill battle to get someone out of this mindset. And even if you can convince someone that China isn't committing genocide, they've still internalised the important part: the dehumanisation of Chinese people and the othering of China as some evil enemy out to destroy everything.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] neroiscariot@hexbear.net 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not a real person that's a fed trying to steal talking points for nerds

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I guess they lost their war with Vietnam (thankfully), but it's more reasonable in the context of the Korean War to say that they are the winners.

Just wait until this person finds out what people say about America's military record

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If she posts in r/china she's already a racist. This whole thing is a LARP.

also could be worse. She could think the genocide is real but support it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

bruh my comment got auto-deleted for having an account less than a month old, lmao

My comment was "Red Sun in the Sky stays on during sex"

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

for anyone curious the hanzi basically means brainwashed.

oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago

I hate liberals so fucking much.

load more comments
view more: next ›