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[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 140 points 6 months ago

blaming nixon on the war protesters instead of the party maintaining a deeply unpopular pro-war stance

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 88 points 6 months ago

If only JFKs head hadn't just done that

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago

Not to mention what the Dems did to McGovern in 72...

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 120 points 6 months ago

Dems coming full circle and supporting the Vietnam war

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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 103 points 6 months ago

"If y'all don't like the ruling class oppressing you so much, then just let them oppressing you!"

Wow, brilliant take. Sounds like they should have kept protesting after Vietnam. Sounds like maybe we stopped too soon.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 102 points 6 months ago

great takes in that thread:

This actually isn’t right. The main thing that pushed the country to the right and led to Nixon was the race riots of the 60s. Read Omar wasows research.

oh really, the race riots, eh? why were there race riots?

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 74 points 6 months ago

The fact that white people hated the civil rights movement so much they actually rioted (often harnessing that anger on school busing programs) has been completely memory holed and we all just sorta pretend like it never happened. Even as someone who likes to read history, I don’t really know all that much about it. But I assume it never gets brought up in history class or society at large because it spoils the narrative of “MLK Jr gave a speech, we passed a law, and now we have total equality and racism had been defeated”.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 55 points 6 months ago

A lot of people come to the realization that society fought MLK, watched him die and then said "oh! oh! I agreed with him the whole time"

But it's worse. What they really said was "He agreed with me the whole time"

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

Yup. After MLK ended racism, everyone forgets about how the white people who formed lunch mobs and bombed people are still walking around, probably shopping for tomatoes next to you.

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[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

Race riots?

More like, racist riots. kelly

[-] jack@hexbear.net 87 points 6 months ago

White person y'alling POC protesters on why what they get from the ruling class is what they deserve

[-] hexinvictus@hexbear.net 69 points 6 months ago

MLK should have just voted blue

[-] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

I am not American. Why are Americans constantly using “y’all” now?

[-] axont@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago

It's been a normal word in the south forever. Outside of the south it's been pretty normal among black people. Black vernacular English has gained more prominence over the past few decades I think.

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[-] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

because it's gender neutral. similar thing with folks(/folx, ugh) In some cases it's also used to be condescending/ironic, plus crackers just love appropriating turns of phrase from black people

[-] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

There is a bad wiff of gone off mayo of it now alright. The constant use of folk in lefty writing is annoying too.

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[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

You is both singular and plural, back in old english there used to be "thou" but they decided they didn't need it... now they decided they needed it again idk

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 83 points 6 months ago

Carter literally fumbled the youth vote with deeply unpopular policies that could have easily avoided, instead he got btfo by a senile actor who killed a student in protests against bombing children

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 51 points 6 months ago

Libs wanna talk about history but don’t wanna talk about how it fits together smh

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

Carter sucks but I’ll give him props for returning the Canal to Panama. Apparently doing that really hit his popularity hard, though of course there were a lot of other things. The American people get the blame for that one, amerikkka

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

Reminds me of whenever the government does anything remotely good for the people, stocks tank dramatically

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[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 80 points 6 months ago

Here's a good essay that responds to this particular brand of ghoulery.

So here is my question for Joe Biden, the one man who has been anointed to save America from the terrifying notion of another Trump administration: Why have you decided to force American voters who do not want a fascist president to step over the bodies of thousands of dead civilians in order to vote for you? Why? What are you thinking? The Biden administration itself is subjecting all of us to this blood-soaked political kabuki, in which we are all supposed to grin tightly and talk about the CHIPS Act and investment in green energy and studiously ignore the thousands of dead children strewn all around us. It is as if the night before a big game, the New York Yankees went out and shot up an elementary school, and then turned to their fans and shrugged, “What are you gonna do—cheer for the Red Sox?”

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago

Easy. Liberals think those people deserved it

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 75 points 6 months ago

"We need to give republicans everything they want, or else they'll have the pleasure of just taking it!"

How's tailism working out for Biden, btw? He LET abortion bans and trans criminalization happen across the country because "muh bipartisanship" but normies STILL think he's too far left.

[-] Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Just weapons grade libbin. Not to mention : Y'all. Anyways I tried to look at what else this genius person said. Here's another masterpiece.

I love that this person is handwringing at people protesting while all the liberal cadre wouldn't bat an eye at operation phoenix.

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago

Not to mention : Y'all.

She’s from Texas, that’s the least of what’s wrong with her lol

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

lol china is communist when they do bad thing, capitalist when they do good thing, and state capitalist red fash when they simply breathe

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[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 66 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If doing the right thing (fighting for the liberation of Palestine) makes you unpopular with American voters, then America deserves whatever hell is wrought upon it in the aftermath.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

"We must save democracy!"

Binch, if the only available choice is what icing you get on the genocide cake, you have no democracy worth saving. Fuck your democracy and fuck you for asking people of conscience to humor your bullshit.

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 6 months ago

The political theory of "doing nothing is the best way to move policy to your side"

[-] whatup@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago

It’s an objectively true statement but not for the reasons she thinks. American imperialists of the Cold War era de-radicalized anti-war advocates, union members, and other progressives by ending the draft and offering a still-viable path to the so-called middle class.

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[-] Yor@hexbear.net 48 points 6 months ago

These libs are such fucking losers I stg. Absolutely no awareness of history or anything outside of their small bubble

[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 47 points 6 months ago

no protest only-throw only vote

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 6 months ago

I've made jokes about galaxy brain takes in the past but I am literally unable to approach this. It's so far beyond a galaxy take. Beyond a universe take. Beyond the history of western philosophy and analysis. It's transcendental. We can't even see the logic because it is SO BEYOND THOUGHT

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[-] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago

LBJ said "We’ve lost the south for a generation" when he signed the Civil Rights act in June 1964. It was proposed by Kennedy, and LBJ pushed it through congress after the assassination. His election was a few months later. Compare the electoral maps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_United_States_presidential_election

The US entered the Vietnam war around that time period too but do you think of the Jim Crow south as being extremely anti-war?

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago

She's why KKKracker changed its spelling over the years.

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

Even if that were the case, I unironically would rather die, get everyone else killed, and plunge the world into a century of deepest reaction than pander to grillman gormless fucks I have nothing but contempt for grillman

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

Nixon to... Reagan!

If Biden and US-backed Israel's genocide is like the Vietnam War and continues for more than four years - everybody in Gaza is already dead.

A couple days ago if somebody had mentioned "Nixon to Reagan" as a joke - I would have thought it was an excellent bit. But I guess it's the developing lib line and I am aghast. Yesterday night when I was watching MSNBC - I thought to myself "Are you fucking kidding?" when a panel with serious tones in their voices mentioned it too.

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[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

"until 1990's" are you sure? it really looks like republicans are still dominating politics. we have a president that makes reagan look like a leftist and he is lib president.

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 months ago

This is Jimmy erasure.

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