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[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 69 points 3 weeks ago

Only the people not on the ground and doing no work say shit like this. They don't understand how difficult it is to actually mount a military resistance, and how little room there is for being uncompromising.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 55 points 3 weeks ago

liberals can only understand compromising with the people who want to kill you and all the most vulnerable people in society to only kill some of the vulnerable people, compromising by accepting weapons from the enemy of your enemies and using them to fight for liberation just doesn't make sense to them

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago

also known as cowardice

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

yeah, baizuo dipshits always waxing poetic about moral high grounds in the realm of ideas

[-] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

True.

Just wish some of the keyboard warriors on here would remember this wrt the YPG making compromises to fight ISIS.

[-] piccolo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Do you have some pointers to some reading about this? All I know about the YPG is that Brace Belden joined their forces at some point and the US backed them which made a lot of leftists think they were CIA or something

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I seem to recall that the YPG/SDF even said that they felt the global left, and the western left in particular, failed them. And that failure of international support and solidarity is what forced them into a position of having to work with the US to fight ISIS.

So now they're in a situation where NATO is actively fucking them over. Turkey has parked itself on the border, and regularly lobs bombs at civilian targets, and the US looks the other way, while it swallows up Syrian oil. They don't want the US there, and openly state as much. But their presence is the only thing keeping Turkey, a fellow NATO power, from invading even more.

And what's the Western Left's response to this obvious imperial plunder? For people who do nothing but post on the bear website, to complain about a lack of ideological purity from a global south leftist movement that's been forced to choose between being plundered by the US, genocided by ISIS, or invaded and occupied by Turkey.

I've even seen people (more on Reddit then here, tbf) smugly saying that civilian deaths are ok, because "that's what they get for siding with the US", as though that justifies NATO war crimes, or that the people of the region even wanted that in the first place.

It's almost like the world is more complicated than a Marvel movie.

[-] highalectical@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Seriously. If people were consistent with their criticism, they would condemn the USSR for collaborating with the imperialist powers to fight the nazis.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 57 points 3 weeks ago

Who would've thought a united front means you have to have a united front?

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago
[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago

Um you're not real communists, I know you're killing fascists and stuff, but I read more theory than you and I put up some posters around town

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago

Forgive me if I do not give a shit what some US org has to say about anything

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago

I don't wanna stir up shit but personally I've been really disappointed with Politsturm's position on Palestine, especially post-October 7th.

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

I've hardly ever seen any good positions from them.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

Can't even cite something from this millennium?

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

That would include Stalin, who had something to say about people like Politsturm.

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't Politsturm just one dude whose passion is pamphlet graphic design?

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think so, because they also make videos

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

tbh they're pretty good videos if its on historical topics

[-] Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Well that's a name I have memory holed. I only know this cause weirdos like socialism4all used to rep it. But I have forgotten. This is a not even an org iirc, its some publication or blog whatever.

I looked up the blog to see what they push. Oh its glorious. Its all how china is a imperialist country colonizing with their belt and road, and how they plan to take over taiwan. Praising India cause they epic style pushed back on belt and road?

Of course the best one was their articles on palestine. Its all about how hamas started it and wants their theocratic state. And even in their articles they can't stop themselves from bringing up china's belt and road. Also how iran and china are plotting to take over middle east with their policy. Not to mention shitting on some political party in turkey for not condemning hamas attacks.

Then the most recent piece on how poverty is high gaza. And how the working class in gaza needs fight back against their reactionary forces to stop the both sides war.

Like motherfucker can you even think for a second. People in gaza subject to genocide and starvation. Their homes and infrastructure has been completely bombed. No shit.

But the poverty line. Like that's the takeaway from these genius bloggers.

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