this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2024
147 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15918 readers
9 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 
all 39 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 81 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's not material conditions, don't be silly.... every single thing that's wrong is Russia's fault.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

If only general plan ost succeeded, there would be no need for holocaust ancap-good

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 71 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 5 months ago

The one bathroom I'd rather not stay clean

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 5 months ago

Liberal: I have a plan to defeat fascism

The plan: Operation Barbarossa

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm sure destroying Russia won't just cause another migrant crisis that'll further empower the far right. That's never happened with the other countries we've destroyed.

[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 51 points 5 months ago

99% of everyone else will disappear too

[–] roux@hexbear.net 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

far-left populism

Hey babe, wake up. New theory just dropped.

[–] xkyfal18@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago

they said "smh if communism is so good then why isn't there a communism 2" so we delivered.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The reason the far right is making gains in Europe is because the proxy war with Russia is creating the material conditions for fascism. Therefore, if they magically "obliterate" the Russian military the conditions creating fascism would disappear. So, he's technically right, except he hasn't actually spent time thinking about how to defeat the Russian military. He probably doesn't actually understand it would require a nuclear war and thinks it could be easily done because they're Asiatic and backwards i.e. "orcs"

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yep, there has been a crazy amount of fearmongering and talk about how Europe must prioritise military spending and consequently deprioritise living conditions, climate goals and personal freedoms. People for some reason believing that quick fuels support for the right.

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

even if he could bloodlessly snap away all of Russia's military assets, Europe's far right would still be there. the conditions already existed and already strengthened them. and 99% of the conditions are just fear of immigrants, which would increase when Russian citizens flees westward

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Fear of immigrants almost always comes materially from economic forces. They're not just becoming spontaneously more racist.

I think you're underestimating how much of the rise of the far right is being caused by the loss of Russian oil and gas and grain and even tourism. The sanctions put pressure on prices and employment all across the European economy; cutting off their nose to spite their face. The conditions are created by the fear of competition for limited energy and resources, and conquering Russia would end the sanctions and open up their defeated neighbor for superexploitation and the extraction of superprofits.

It's all a fantasy, of course. Russia will not become an imperial conquest that they can loot to alleviate poor economic conditions.

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 5 months ago

Reaching QAnon levels of analysis

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love the "LL.M" in their title..

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 months ago

It's the abbreviation for a Master of Law degree.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 7 points 5 months ago

Large Language Model, or ChatGPT, a source of misinformation.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Legum . Magister (translated literally Master of the Latin Laws you put the L in there twice to make Law's abbreviation plural)

[–] Salmarez@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Liberals on one hand: all the far right parties in Europe are full of Russian and Chinese spies!

Liberals on the other hand: The anti-war leftists are licking Putin's boots!

Liberals: The moderate solution is nuclear war!

[–] Ossay@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

the delusional libs on r/france are convinced that with the RN in power they would 1) actually stop supporting the ukraine war (instead of pivoting to align with nato once in power) 2) that this would somehow lead to WW3 (sending french soldiers in ukraine though wouldn't?)

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

"Defeat fascism with more fascism"

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

"The way to stop the far-right is to do what the far-right wants to do anyways. Destroy humanity in a nuclear apocalypse for laughs."

Bro, have they even examined Europe? Of course the bourgeoisie continent is going to vote in laws that affirm their own interests as a bourgeoisie society.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just a reasonable man promoting a reasonable nuclear holocaust

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People who refuse to carry anything but a hammer will always insist everything is a nail.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Honestly, a (highly unlikely) Russian defeat is just gonna make me more obnoxious.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

They will disappear because everyone will have died in a nuclear war.

xi-plz

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

so-true It's just like when Anakin blew up the droid control ship, all the Russian bots will shut down!

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Serg needs to watch something other than Marvel and Disney.