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On a human level, he kinda has to, right?

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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 72 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pure copium. On a human level it will just reinforce his worldview, give him more confidence in his rhetorical strategies, and increase the sycophantic validation he receives from everyone, blinding him to and isolating him from critique further than he already is.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

All true, really I'm worried more about how inspired his most genocidal followers will be. They already are saying it was divine intervention, and it proves in their mind how violent their opposition is so they need to fight harder.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 54 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

On a human level, he kinda has to, right?

lmao he's just going to become an actual competent fascist and literally kill us all you dummy

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

Stage 3: bargaining

stress

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Getting shot at doesn't cure brain worms. Where will this competence that's been entirely absent for his whole life suddenly appear from?

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's going to triple down on his fascism.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago
[–] JayTwo@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago

The cope meter!
It's off the charts!
We haven't seen readings this high since a century ago when the NY Times said that prison mellowed out Hitler!

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He got a surprise ear piercing by high velocity Claire's. Shot in the face is editorializing.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That might be the most naive thought I've seen since the shooting.

He's gonna think he's literally appointed by God to cleanse America of the undesirables.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

It's 100% copium. Trump does not have a good bone in his body, and being shot isn't going to change that.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes lol 300% pure copium biaoqing-copium. His politics are secondary to his core values of enriching himself and getting people to like him. None of that will change because he got shot.

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

1000% copium. If anything this will incline him to believe in his own invincibility and divine right to be god emperor.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If this riles up his base and energizes the people he sees at his rallies, he is going to lean into this hard.

Every future rally is going to have Secret Service, local cops, and a fuckton of fascist militant types volunteering to watch every roof, vehicle, closet, port-a-potty, and man hole cover from now on.

If he notices that his crowds are more subdued or smaller, he might play the oWo smol bean card and tone down the rhetoric.... maybe.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think he'll improve. Idk how to predict his personally but this might shake him and leave him scared. But it also might galvanize him and convince him of his own importance. Now he's shed blood for the cause so he can reinforce his ego on this.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

@D61@hexbear.net comment above pretty much nails it

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If anything it will prompt his narcissistic bubble to burst into full on megalomania. And his base will eat it up as he campaigns on being the messiah.

And this is already the narrative they're pushing. Wind twisted a flag at the rally when he was shot and people are saying it was an angel saving Trump.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s just normal American religious psychosis though. He could have shat his pants in the debate and the hogs would claim the shart formed an angel in there

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but now Trump might actually believe it himself. Which is what I mean by the narcissistic bubble bursting into full-on Messiah complex / megalomania.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m not saying this shit isn’t bad. I just can’t formulate a tangible way his behaviour would be any different

shrug-outta-hecks

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fair. I guess I'm expecting things to escalate quickly now as he's emboldened by all of this. And for his base to try to start their jihad before January.

Which may end up for the best.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hear you fam.

So let me try and inject a bit of bloomer into things.

I feel like the shock of this failed assassination attempt has kinds broken our brains like it did everyone else. The electoral situation has been drastically changed but electoralism ain’t shit.

Trump is the same fucking dumbass as he was last week. If his head (somehow) got bigger, then that means it will be that much more difficult for the competent fascists in his cabinet to steer him towards anything productive. And it will be that much easier for absolute loonies and stone cold grifters to gain his trust.

Shit’s bad, for sure. But running things on pure Id is just never going to be very effective or efficient. I expect the efforts of evil to redouble but the output to drop. Or at least be susceptible to principled and organised resistance. We just gotta build that, starting yesterday

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[–] bestmiaou@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago

in a week he'll be talking about how the woke communists tried to kill him and we need to return the favor to them

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Yes. Ghost of future past is only for Mr Scrooge in Christmas Carol.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

To become a better person, you need to have the ability to self-reflect. I do not expect Trump has that.

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

So he's going to turn down the rhetoric. Our only chance to avoid a trump reelection would be if this made him worse enough to turn off voters. If this is true he's basically won.

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

All the MAGAbrains will now be completely lisan-al-gaib and set aside whatever remains of rational thought they had and see Cheeto as God's deliverance or some shit. Anything he does to immigrants, minorities, the Middle East and China, etc. will be praised without any critical thinking if there ever was one in the first place

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Hopium comes from a different plant than copium. They both cause delusions but one causes delusions of the possibility of positive future events while the other causes delusions about the past and present. (respectively)

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

On a human level, he kinda has to, right?

HOW DARE YOU CALL A GOD "HUMAN"!

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

It would be funny if he were an abject coward and dropped out because he never thought someone would actually take a shot at him

But alas, he will probably just demand more security and double down on everything

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apparently it was a "spiritual experience" for him. A man this untouched by reality will absolutely not humanize. I hope for it, but doubt springs eternal.

I'm still putting it on my bingo card because things have been so wild that all bets are off.

[–] JayTwo@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A "spiritual experience" to him, and his followers, doesn't mean he had a return to Jesus moment, it means it's proof he has the mandate of heaven.

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[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Experiencing an injury to a sensory organ as a result of getting shot at famously precludes any possibility of acting like a monster.

Photo of Moshe Dayan.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

lathe-of-heaven Out of self-preservation and/or political calculus Trump moderates his positions/calls for unity to the point where the frothingfash believes he is betraying them. Enough of them turn on him until he gets got for real

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes. Observe as Peter Thiel's handpicked automaton is appointed VP at the RNC.

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

One possible outcome was that Trump, known coward, will actually drop out and retire now that he sees that his decisions and actions have consequences.

I think he would done so already if this were to be the case though

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Better person? Probably not from our perspective. Different? Possible.

If he genuinely thinks that this was some sort of message from the deep state he might become a lot more pliable for them in his second term. Which would delight liberals who would celebrate his increasing deference to carrying out US imperialism and call him presidential for it but obviously be a bad thing. I mean he seems narcissistic and if he does see this as a shot across his bow and his life flashed before his eyes he might decide it's not worth crossing those particular people on things because his life is in their hands and they've demonstrated it in a very, very visible way. Oh it won't impact domestic policies and repressions because the imperialist violence apparatus doesn't care about those one way or the other.

On the campaign I think there's a good chance he tones down the rhetoric and tacks a little towards the American center (right) to try and really maximize his victory margins since he has his base more in the bag than ever now and there are plenty of frightened liberals who could be convinced he's less of a threat if he acts less threatening for the next few months and seems to be changed. He might also be genuinely scared of more attempts and attempt to ward them off by appearing more conciliatory. Because it's obvious the people supposed to protect him (secret service) didn't (for whatever reason and they certainly at the least look incompetent if not complicit) and he has no power while not elected and in-power again to change that.

Edit Let me excerpt from PSL's statement something I strongly agree with:

Trump is reportedly rewriting his speech, which had originally been an all-out attack on Biden, to focus more on themes of national unity. With leading capitalists extending him an olive branch, Trump could calculate that his best move would be to move in a “moderate” direction and demonstrate to fellow members of the ultra-rich elite that he can be a unifying, “presidential” figure and present strength for the Empire. Trump has no fixed ideology and solely cares about his image and legacy.

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i think he just means "everyone unite around kissing my ass"

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was going to say, "was there ever a doubt of that?" But then I remembered that libs are terminally credulous

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

lol he just made JD Vance his running mate after the guy tweeted biden's rhetoric is "directly responsible" for the trump shooting

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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

I mean, the man went golfing the day after nearly being assassinated. I'm not sure that he's going to change much.

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Getting shot in the face" yo he got shot in the ear. He's this guy from Fairly Oddparents. The guy from my woodshop class who had his finger sliced off is more of a badass, and this "getting shot in the face" talk is trying to hype up such a lame injury.

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

See what he says at the convention

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Why would he change because he almost died? He's old, he's almost dead by default. Hell he's probably had heart attacks and shit already

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

He has a better chance of finding God and becoming convinced he was saved by direct divine intervention than changing for the better. His response won't be "oh shit someone shot at me, this is fucked, I've gotta get right with the world", it's much more likely to be "God Himself told me to turn my head at that moment to save my life. It is His divine plan that I win the election and usher in the second coming of Christ". Hell, I'd say it's more likely for him to hint at being the second coming himself mccrucified

[–] Titou@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Me when a mosquito bite me

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago
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