We've all seen it, and it has become more and more prevalent in recent years. I get the desire to dunk on WASPs, and that's all in good fun as far as I'm concerned, but I'm getting really tired of reading these weird theological arguments from leftists who think that the problem is the ideological framework of Calvinism or whatever. No. The prots have institutional influence where you live, and that's all there is to it. In the (many) countries where the Catholic church has institutional influence, they're the bastards.

They're the bastards where I live, but I'm not going to start blaming it on the dogma of transubstantiation or whatever, because that would be bad analysis.

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[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

Hum. Im starting to think that it may be organized religion that is the problem !

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

I dislike both flavors.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Christianity is also just objectively bad

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

B-b-b-buht liberation theology !!!!

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How about libation theology? Reject modernity, return to Bacchus

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

Liberalation theology

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm not going to start blaming it on the dogma of transubstantiation or whatever, because that would be bad analysis.

Amusing that you call this out (correctly, imo) and get rewarded with a thread full of assholes tripping over themselves to say "DAE Christianity/religion bad?!" instead of any meaningful thought regarding this

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am allowed to say Christianity is bad, but i would correctly be labeled a racist to say that islam or judaism is bad

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think it's fine to say Christianity is bad, I just think doing so in a fashion that is that dismissive in a thread about "weird christian sectarianism on the left" that talks about bad analysis is maybe not the place to do it if you aren't going to give any reasoning. That said, I didn't intentionally call you out and I apologize for that.

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

No no its okay im low-effort shjtposting on a serious question i deserve it lmao

I have no thoughts in my brain i go completely off of vibes

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'll be the first to admit that I'm an asshole, but I wasn't in my comment about Christianity being objectively bad. That's not a spicy take. It's like saying anthropogenic climate change is happening.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This was not great phrasing on my part. Arising partly a result of spending a fair bit of time with someone who used "asshole" to mean "person selected at random" but partly because I do think that coming in evidencing the behavior the post is about with a completely dismissive take with no reasoning given is rude. In essence OP is saying they think this behavior is problematic and it is being used as an invitation to display it.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ok, I can get behind that, But would my original comment of "Christianity is objectively bad" be more welcomed if it was followed by a bullet list of examples? I'd think you still would have called me an asshole in that case. I wasn't trying to pick on OP, and I'm of the opinion that all organized religion is objectively bad, but Christianity has proven over the millennia to be at least one of the worst offenders.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

I guess I can't say for sure, but I think if you had a list of examples it would have been fine. I'm not religious myself, if that's your impression I just found the thread ironic giving the OP's statement and the initial comment rush.

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

ITT: "meet people where they're at, unless where they're at is a church. I am The Materialist"

EDIT: snarky repliers beware, I will check your comment history for how many times you've said "in sha'Allah"

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Inshallah is funny because it offends chuds because oooooh scary arab lanuage oooohhh

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Yep, exactly. We use it here like we use cracker. Both are specifically intended to offend white people.

[–] BearerOfPickles@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Abrahamic Religions taking a massive loss in this thread. Good. They are all kinda dookie

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i think it's somewhat inherited from anglo-german imperialists who made such claims to exceptionalize themselves as the good capitalists and imperialists, whereas the catholics (particularly spain, italy) had a backwardsness and ineptitude in their imperializing and capitalizing.

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Oh there's loads of stuff tied up with it: the history of anticatholicism in England, how that relates to Ireland; then you've got the North/South American axis too. And this stuff matters, but theology is not the driving force of history, is it

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

i think people who were raised christian will just uncritically accept the prejudices that instilled, even after they leave the church. i have friends who were raised protestant and are now firmly anti-theist who will still refer to "christians and catholics" and genuinely don't seem to know or fully believe that catholics are also christian.