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[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 106 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The difference is that China did it to their own people

The classic Nazi talking point, I love this one!

Stalin is worse than Hitler because Stalin killed his own people! sus-soviet

Also the PRC was founded in 1949, I really don't understand how someone can bring up the Mongol Empire and link that to Mao Zedong.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The classic Nazi talking point, I love this one!

Umm achually they identify as a socialist, they're just "anti-authoritarian". You tankies wouldn't understandsmuglord

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This one gets me the most.

"Tankie" literally just is a slur for socialists in modern parlance. It's basically just like calling someone "Anarkiddie"

It means fucking nothing and is used as a lazy reason for dissmissing one's views and goals.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Tankie" and "authoritarianism" are two everclear signifiers that a person is talking out of their ass.
Edit: and whataboutism

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lol yeah they hit lib bingo in that one post

also calling Mao's revolution "conquest" like bruh the only place that could even possibly apply to is Tibet and they were literally a SLAVE STATE. Fuck Tibet I'm glad they got liberated.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I really wish we had a :lib-bingo: emote. Might have to design one. What else would be on it tho?

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

There total lack of coherence is giving me a headache

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do they think it matters who was killed? Is this some nationalism brain thing I am too anti-imperialism brained to understand?

They believe Intentional genocide is not as bad as a famine in your own country.

The inherent idea there being "Nations have an overriding moral duty to their own people, the rest are acceptable losses compared to one's own."

It's nationalistic and borderline fascist trash.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s just the exotic inscrutable Orientals bullshit

[–] build_a_bear_group@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

I am sorry, but the Asian brainpan has not meaningfully evolved in that timescale - jordan-eboy-peterson

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah the qing were manchu, incoherent

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the Yuan under Kubilai can be interpretted in roughly modern china's shape, even a bit bigger, though the specific borders of china were laid out under the Qing & PRC.

the Qing scholars do like to point out that the Qing presented themselves to their varying ethnicities in different ways though, they very purposefully justified their rule in mongolia in chinggisid terms, trying to make themselves the worthy successor of mongol world empire. their campaigns against the dzunghar were about snuffing out a competing claim for the overlordship of the mongol groups on the steppe & in tibet

oh but yeah the OP was hilariously wrong, chinggis did not complete the conquest of china lol

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Also the PRC was founded in 1949, I really don't understand how someone can bring up the Mongol Empire and link that to Mao Zedong.

It's all because we built that time machine to go forward in time to steal American 5G technology. We may have messed up a few historical details on the way back...