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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

Gee, I wonder why Zionists have a hard time garnering sympathy from Western ethnic minorities and actual indigenous peoples.

https://x.com/rongwrong_/status/1726860269765452191?s=46

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 73 points 11 months ago

That started out in an okay direction (comparing Gazans to other victims of colonialism) then took a hard right turn.

[-] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago

They had me in the first half

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 73 points 11 months ago

The massacre of October 7 was more like a Comanche raid than like the Holocaust or a pogrom, despite the relevance of the latter comparison to the Jewish people.

The Comanches, like the Gazans, were more savage and sadistic than the Nazis and Europeans.

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 47 points 11 months ago

My thoughts exactly.

The Comanche raids on Mexico started after some Mexican territorial officials put out bounties on the ears of Native Americans that they didn't like. In response, the Comanche ravaged Mexico as far south as Mexico City (as they should have). Not to say the Comanche were nice - there were plenty of other tribes they ruthlessly dominated.

[-] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

Then in proud American military tradition they named a helicopter after them

[-] worlds_okayest_mech_pilot@hexbear.net 68 points 11 months ago

You know, I really just need to set up a hotkey that automatically posts us-foreign-policy every time I see one of these

[-] GenXen@hexbear.net 58 points 11 months ago

What Hamas did was far, far worse than killing people in gas chambers

what-the-hell

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 50 points 11 months ago

zionists wiping their ass with the memory of the holocaust as usual

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Didn't Bibi literally blame the holocaust on Arabs a few years back?

EDIT: Yes

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

i'm going to pour napalm into my eyes

e: wait, no. his eyes

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 50 points 11 months ago

despite the relevance of the latter comparison to the Jewish people

I’d argue comparing Israelis to European settlers and Palestinians to indigenous Americans is a pretty apt comparison, my guy.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I did not expect to see the savage and bloodthirsty native Americans trope in the wild in the year of our lord 2023. What's next, "Palestinians are like the Finnish, aggressive and carrying knives"?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 11 months ago

_you don't get it, we were so scared of the sniper with iron sights we had to blow up 5 square blocks. How were we supposed to know he was on the other side _

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Never heard that one. I'm used to the stereotype on Finns being loner drunks. I suppose it's a better stereotype to put in a tourism book than stealing Sami lands.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

The only finnish stereotype I know is spending all your time in saunas

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Sauna, vodka, doctor. And in that order, I believe.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

It is based on Swedish stereotypes of Finnish migrant workers from the 50s and 60s.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

What's about the Finnish and knives? Nowadays all i ever hear in the internet about them is how stronk and kool they are for killing some Soviet soldiers in the war.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

It's an old racist stereotype that nobody takes seriously any more. Allegedly the Finns carry knives on them and are quick to loose their temper and start stabbing people. The euros are not okay.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

That's weird, it's coming from the Germans? They have some weird obsession about people with knives.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

It's probably coming from Sweden

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Ah so that's just axe chauvinism.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 48 points 11 months ago

i will forever be awed by the right's ability to say correct things for 2/3rds of a post and then slip on a banana peel and fall off a cliff

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 45 points 11 months ago

Then they turn around and get upset that native americans don't support isn'treal.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 44 points 11 months ago

lmfao it's always the Comanche, Apache, Sioux, and Aztecs with these people. Maybe the Caribs for the somewhat educated ones. They ignore the many hundreds of tribes that were nowhere near as brutal as the ones they hyperfocus on. The disgusting part is that the more peaceful ones are mocked for being too weak to defend themselves and the whites were merely "conquerers", but the ones that fought back are all brutal savages who deserved it anyway because they were already warmongering.

This is exactly how it is with Palestine. They like Palestine enough to feel sorry for them when they get brutalized but call for their heads the moment they fight back and casualties happen. It's all "this is war" when the Israelis kill someone and "nuke the savages" when Palestine kills civilians.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

"JUST LIKE IN THE TREATS!" -contemporary apartheid propaganda porky-point

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Said treats being revisionist westerns which were meant to deconstruct the genre and shed light on the racism inherent in it but were constrained by being chiefly from the white settlers' perspectives as well as marketed to a white audience.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago

If you ever claim your opponents are "more sadistic than the nazis" I'm gonna have to call you on your bullshit and assume you're the bad guy lmao

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

at best they dont know wtf they're talking about and need a gulag or they do in which case they need the cuck pit barbara-pit

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

I'm gonna have to ask for an exception for Imperial Japan though.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm a white American and this makes me fucking cringe hard. I've even been considering the historical parallels between the Navajo and Gaza, and this sent it

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

Somebody pointed out the existence of the Dirlewanger Battalion to this guy and now he's "well askcually"-ing SS atrocities.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Of course, the clean SS myth risen this year in Klanada and instantly the nazis jumped there.

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Must absolutely suck to the few Baltic Jewish partisans still alive. Both the Baltic countries you fought tooth and nail to survive in and the "Jewish State" claiming to represent you whitewash the monsters who murdered your friends and family and forced you to be a "terrorist" just barely eking out an existence in the woods.

IIRC, Abba Kovner initially embraced Zionism post-war only to come to regret it later in life when he started linking the Holocaust to the Nakba in his writings. Something like this is just so on the nose in light of the fact.

[-] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

...what is the relevance of that picture? It doesn't appear to be the person who made the post, is it someone I should recognize from, uh, fandango dot com?

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago

I think it's a scene from the searchers which is a super racist movie.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 45 points 11 months ago

I think the searchers is actually meant to be a criticism of both westerns and manifest destiny, but the criticism gets lost because you can't make a movie portraying a racist spciety to a racist society without everyone just nodding along. Kind of perfect reference for that guy to make, because he constructs a criticism of a settler colonial state and goes "and anyone who opposes it is an evil savage". There's something poetic in being so bought into your racist worldview that your brain can't process critiques of it in either art or formal argument.

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

I mean isn't that why people support the setting from the film adaptation of Starship Troopers? im-doing-my-part

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For all the faults of the United Citizens' Federation, it handles gender the best of any real or fictional society, by which I mean it's aggressively indifferent to it

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Broke: showering alone

Woke: showering with all my bros

Bespoke: showering with all my bros and broettes

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Baroque: shower with your dad simulator 2015

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

it is kind of difficult to parse today, i'm still not sure to what extent it was actually subversive in it's context, but it wasn't that much, or presented in the overt way (hammer over the noggin') a yankee audience requires. a lynchpin of the narrative, the awaited and expected execution of natalie wood for being 'defiled'---i don't think it occurs to a modern audience that the price for being SA'd was supposed to be death, and it was somewhat dated in the 50's when the movie came out. so that commentary and criticism will well fly over people's heads

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

How to post your way into being called a Hamas supporter for being 2racist2soon

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