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By all western accounts (might as well say most credible) Ukraine is without a doubt winning this war, there is no denying how substantial the Russian losses have been not just in sheer numbers of those killed on the frontlines but even more so those who have been impacted by the western imposed sanctions which can be removed if Russia removes themselves from occupied Ukraine. I think there have been 14 million Russian deaths as a result of this war and only 4000 Ukrainian deaths - that number includes victims of war (may they rest in peace).

I just want the hexbears to enlighten me - they make bold claims but never follow up with any sources, they constantly repeat the same whataboutisms without acknowledging material reality around them, you can keep retracting your arguments anytime you are proven wrong but this playdoh act can only go so far - if you “”communists”” (hate typing that word) actually had an ounce of care for humanity, wouldn’t you be opposed to the Ruzzian invasion of a sovereign nation such as Ukraine? Let me paint a picture for you - you children might understand this more if I speak in your terms:

If you claim Israel (which is a real country by all historical accounts), that they have no right to be on alleged stolen Palestine land… why do you not come to the same conclusion when it comes to Russia and Ukraine? Oh, another example, why would you not vote Biden who is by no means a great candidate but by choosing not to vote you allow a fascist (antithesis of communists) into power? Don’t you think you have a moral obligation to vote out fascism every time?

I don’t know, though- I’m just a person on the interweb- my opinions are correct and backed by the smartest minds in the west, I do not have to listen to any of you so don’t expect much engagement from me in the comments - thanks!

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 106 points 10 months ago

a fascist (antithesis of communists)

This breaks the bit. No lib would recognize this fact

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 70 points 10 months ago

Your powers don't work outside of /c/fakenews. Be gone foul fiend!

[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

🚨 ALERT ALERT MELINA HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT THIS IS NOT A DRILL 🚨

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

checks username
checks comm

something sinister is afoot

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Literally did the same thing like 20% through the post. Name -> comm -> slow squint while astral calculations started comically flying by my head while I postulated all the possibilities

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago
[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It amazes me that people don’t realize that defending democracy doesn’t end with this battle. If you give up on Ukraine, then next comes Taiwan, South Korea, Poland.

This. Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy maybe-later-kiddo

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you give up on Ukraine

then next comes Taiwan

South Korea

Poland

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

Should've thrown palestine in there somewhere as well. My bad. sicko-pig palestine-strong

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Russia isn’t real. Have you ever seen Vladimir Putin and the entire cast of The Deprogram at the same place at the same time? No? Coincidence? I think not.

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

the entire cast of The Deprogram at the same place at the same time

I love their bitching about how impossible it is to record a podcast with people on opposite sides of the globe lol

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I was a little hopeful about the closing fakenews post you did. It actually seemed genuine and self-reflective for once, especially after you got so shitty with people over another terrible "ironic" comm request last week.

Maybe I'm getting too old and don't understand the whole "posting a reactionary rant but actually it's ironic" thing anymore, but your posts generally don't seem satirical, they just seem like they were directly written by a lib and posted on your account with an assurance it is definitely just a joke.

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Really? 14 million dead Russians and 4000 dead Ukrainians doesn't seem like satire? This post hit every western talking point in a simple to follow list.

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ruzzia and Pizza are similar.

Ruzzia... Pizza Hut.

It all make sense

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the Russian version of Demolition Man, instead of Taco Bell (good/patriotic) they talk about PIZZA HUT. Coincidence? I'll let you be the judge.

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[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

putler confirmed actor, the gorbman is still in charge!

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[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago

If you cut this bit in half it would have been good.

[–] leftofthat@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

why would you not vote Biden who is by no means a great candidate but by choosing not to vote you allow a fascist

I'm voting for Hunter

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Russia will win because it is a communist country

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

the US government says Russia is losing, which means they must be winning

Death to America

[–] turgidanklebrace@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

Wow, I've never seen such pro-russia propaganda. 14 million dead? Are you kidding me?

The entire country is walking undead, risen by the dark arts of communism, and you would know that if you weren't entrenched in your commie bubble.

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Has anyone else just not followed this war at all?

I have no fucking clue what's going on from a tactical standpoint. People were talking about bakmut or something for, like, ever?

I don't know. It just feels like following the particulars is really pointless for me.

[–] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Has anyone else just not followed this war at all?

I wish I had - two years down the drain that I'll never get back, thanks Joe, you old demented fuck.

Then again it was absolutely glorious/baffling/just couldn't stop to watch NATO and the West entangling itself in this mess and lose to Putin's Russia. Just... being alive while history is made, you have to watch and marvel, right?

Maybe should have stopped after Afghanistan. DEFINITELY should stop after Kyiev falls. Probably want to watch when Tel Aviv falls.

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago
[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago
[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

I just want the hexbears to enlighten me.

Sorry, my flashlight is dead.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago

If you claim Israel (which is a real country by all historical accounts), that they have no right to be on alleged stolen Palestine land…

I’m not the one claiming this but Ben Gurion

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

10/10 incredible effort chefs-kiss

[–] Juice@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Good bit, 9/10. The "smartest minds in the west" is a bit much, but "I don't have to listen to any of you so don't expect much engagement from me" is gold

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

4000 Ukrainian deaths - that number includes victims of war (may they rest in peace).

"rest in power" (white power fist)

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

In this house

We believe in science

Black Lives Matter

Ukrainian lives matter

Good cops’ lives matter

Palestinian lives matter

Israeli lives matter

[–] D61@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

fry

Badposting has breached containment!

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They were promised 85 rubles for every pro-Russian comment that they made on the internet. I just want to say to all you Putin simps out there: you’re never gonna get paid, Russia is running out money soon!

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

There are two entire army groups marching on Berlin as we speak, within days from this comment there'll be a flag raised over the Reichstag symbolizing the liberation of the world from fascism

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Ukraine was mean to the people of Donbas. If China decided to liberate homeless people from California or wageslaves from another part of the world, or chattel slaves from anywhere then I'd applaud them. Israel is being mean to Palestinians, so I wouldn't want them to succeed in continuing to be mean. Joe is not meaningfully less mean than Trump in any metric that I care about.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago
[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Actually Ukraine won the war already over a year ago, it's just being suppressed because Biden needs the wartime funds from congress to do a Marshall Plan in the conquered Ruzzian territories.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

i've seen people earnestly say "how can you say free palestine but not free ukraine" a few times outside hexbear, but the comparison is pretty thin. there's no mass population transfer unless you count war refugees, there's no apartheid, there's no prison fence around millions of people. no matter where you draw the borders the same people still live in the same places however this gets settled. the two situations really aren't that similar.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

if you “”communists”” (hate typing that word)

Is this a bit? This has to be a bit.

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[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

Melina is always serious.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

it's intended to be, at any rate

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