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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 68 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If Americans really didn't want that rematch they would have assassinated both of them

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nobody wants to catch a life sentence over two dudes nature is going to take care of within the next several years

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

"Biden's heart gave in, luckily a Palistinian child donated him a new one! It's actually bigger than the shrivelled up old one, so it should keep him going for another FOUR MORE YEARS!!"

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[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago (5 children)

No one here gives a shit enough about the country to do so. The only ones even pretending to only show it via hatred of the "other". It's an illegitimate country and everyone's aware of that, subconsciously or consciously. You don't risk your life for a culture and state that doesn't exist

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

jeb psl about to get 25 percent

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

gloria-rap (not running but I have a soft spot for her)

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not a big surprise. Anyone who's spent time in more reactionary parts of America can see the writing on the wall. New York almost went red in the gubernational election to a Trump guy and NYC was barely able to give Hochul the win over Zeldin. She could very well lose next term with how piss poor she's been.

The MAGA craze of 2016 isn't there but you can tell that people loathe Biden and everything they associate with him. January 16th or whenever it was has also been glossed over in their eyes after they learned about the FBI infiltrating the organizations that went there. Covid isn't going to save Biden and his wars in the Middle East won't sway people that think Trump will be the one to end it. Even if Biden does end it, they'll change the goal post to Trump won't get into any wars at all.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's wild being in New York. We have the most useless dems in the country I'm pretty sure. Should be the bluest state in the country and they're almost losing to republicans with the built in advantage of NYC.

Not to act like weed is a top priority but the fact they "legalised" weed like 5 or 6 years ago and there still isn't anywhere to buy it because of complete beuracratic deadlock is basically a perfect example of the state.

Well technically do the right thing but we're going to drag our feet the entire time and do the shittiest Jon possible seemingly just for the sake of being shitty.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

The NY Dems are the perfect example of the Iron Law of Institutions, everyone at the top is more concerned with keeping their perch than winning elections.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

It's because Upstate New York is basically West Virginia, save for a few liberal bastions like Buffalo, Rochester, and Albany. There's a lot of them electing right-wingers and they keep the state in a permanent deadlock.

Also this recent gubernational election had the closest race since 2014 when Cuomo almost lost to Astorino.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I remember hearing that NY got their districts redrawn and that's a big part of why Republicans are doing better there now

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Don't look into who redrew those districts lol

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Now you may ask yourself “How does a solid blue state get redrawn in a way that heavily favors the republicans? Who drew that map?” And those are good questions

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Fuck Cuomo. His Dad was better.

[–] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Joe Biden still owes me $600.

[–] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

*2000. He said those $2,000 checks would be in the mail if you vote for him (I'm not finding the exact quote, but you can go look it up). I don't recall getting a $2,000 check, so he still owes me $2,000.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

I think he said $2000 and sent $1400.

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[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Honestly polling shouldn’t be taken seriously after the debacle of 2016.

Biden is going to win for the simple reason that the bourgeoisie want him to win. Simple as that. The American people decide nothing.

People who still think Trump has a shot, don’t understand that capitalism doesn’t make the same mistake twice.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump does all the same things that Biden does, so the ruling class have no reason to do anything to influence the election. And trump did give them a massive tax-cut back in 2017-2018, while biden increased the corporate tax rate. Furthermore, the ruling class is in no way agreeing on basically anything regarding policy other than "empire good and taxes bad".

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Read my response to the other user.

Biden’s proposed corporate tax is supposed to take in $222 billion over 10 years, and his billionaire tax $440 billion over 10 years, so let’s make that $66 billion per year.

Biden’s Fed rate hike has pumped out $1 TRILLION dollars to the rich people in 2023 alone.

You can tax corporations and billionaires all you want, but the rich people all know who benefit them the most. The numbers don’t lie.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why would the bourgeoisie want Biden over trump? What did Trump do that hurt them?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Jan 6 was too embarrassing, Trump committed the greatest sin, he annoyed them

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I disagree. Trump cut corporate taxes to 21% from 35%. Dems couldn’t do that. Also there are plenty of environmental regulations to eviscerate, psycho right wing chudges to appoint, etc. Biden holds the line but trump moves it right.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Trump’s tax cut is a joke compared to Biden’s Fed rate hike that has pumped out $1 TRILLION dollars to the rich people in 2023 alone.

Biden’s proposed billionaire tax is supposed to rake in $440 billion over 10 years, and the corporate tax $222 billion over 10 years, that’s $66 billion per year, while $1 trillion is given back to the rich. How is it even comparable between the two?

Biden made S&P500 gone up 50% higher than Trump’s highest point in just 2 years. If you owned stocks and bonds like most rich people do, you’ve just been made much much more wealthier than during Trump’s era.

We’re not even talking about all the wars that have massively benefited the military industrial complex, the oil and gas industries, and the financial sector.

What’s more, Biden made white people richer and black people poorer:

Source: Federal Reserve, 2023

This matters a lot to the white racist conservatives. Trump knows how to talk big but he cannot deliver. Biden proves that he can get things done.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Damn good post

What can one say besidesbrump

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I fucking hate this country agony-limitless

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Everyone is already forgetting the last supposed Red wave fiasco. The most you can say is it will be close and any talks about one leading the other is just BS.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

That to me says a lot of Americans are just embarrassed to say who they'd vote for.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everyone will be fucked despite the president, and this is why I voted for both of them ten times

[–] Gay_Wrath@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

remember when trump got like two billion dollars in free coverage from the news and everyone was like damn, maybe we shouldn't do that next time

Well, the news corps are at it again folks. More and more people are saying it. They're gonna meme the big red boy into the white house again

Two one term fascists fighting over which gets to be the next full term war criminal in chief

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dw in another 4 years Biden will run against trumps successor

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Here's how Juche can win

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

like dissolution in real time, crazy shit

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

only 1250 polled tho, so, nothing significant.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bookies's odds are like 45% Trump, 34% Biden

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

The nationwide poll of 1,250 U.S. adults showed Trump leading Biden 40% to 34% with the rest unsure or planning to vote for someone else or no one. The poll had a margin of error of three percentage points.

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Seventy percent of respondents - including about half of Democrats - agreed with a statement that Biden should not seek re-election. Fifty-six percent of people responding to the poll said Trump should not run, including about a third of Republicans.

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Three-quarters of poll respondents agreed with a statement that Biden was too old to work in government, while half said the same about Trump, who at 77 would also be among the oldest U.S. leaders ever if returned to the White House. Just over half of Democrats saw Biden as too old while a third of Republicans viewed Trump that way.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wake me up when the headlines start saying he's edging Biden again.

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[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stone Cold Steve Austin does the Stone Cold Stunner on The Rock in a rematch many American's don't want.

[–] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But that would be a rematch from 2 of the most beloved wrestlers ever.

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its so violent and showstopping that they might NOT actually want it

[–] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would want to see Biden and Trump physically fight

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