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It's the dunk tank.

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 115 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Between us who have read maybe 10,000 books on the topic, and you've read two Wikipedia entries, and you start talking about chapter six? Do you know what chapter seven is?

whomst the FUCK do i ping to add a tagline suggestion??

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 76 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

When he debated Richard Wolff, he would be looking up Wikipedia pages in the middle of it. Referring back to notes is fine but this motherfucker was literally forming his positions and seeking the evidence as he went along lol. Then he would just talk to his chat or spin around in his chair making noises while Wolff is talking, and he would interrupt Wolff to criticize him for explaining history and background first then making his argument lol

[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago

I mean the classic Michael brooks debate has him attempting to seize on singular data point that destiny thinks is being used incorrectly and brooks refuses to let him talk about because brooks used it correctly and destiny only cares about nit picking about using perfect examples to prove a point, while brooks only cares about the big picture (in that case that TPP and trade deals are made to benefit corporations first and not the countries who get pulled into them).

He's such a stupid fucking need that he thinks he can know more about topics from people who spend their whole lives on that one topic after he spends an afternoon on Wikipedia.

Finkelstein is correct to wonder how this bozo can constantly be so supremely confident without a shred knowledge to actually back it up. Some kind of ultra version of dunning-kruger effect.

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

a-little-trolling We've got the best admins. Most beautiful admins. nerd

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 84 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At one point Finkelstein says, "With all due respect, you’re such a fantastic moron. It’s terrifying."

Critical support for Finkelstein in his quest to destroy all Zionists.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 81 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It feels like norm is being sicced on libs like an attack dog.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Al-Aqsa Flood and Israel's genocide in response to it has legitimately jokerfied Finklestein. He's an old guy so don't expect him to put on makeup and go on an adventure but the way he talks about Israelis and the IDF now compared to how he did before are like two totally different people.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He used to be a maoist during the cultural revolution, he's still got that dog in him

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

He must’ve seen how the west had strong “support” for Palestinians before 9/11, then it immediately switched to foaming genocidal fantasies afterwards, and now back to overwhelming support (mainly from the rest of the world)

Between his own family being killed in the holocaust and his old age, I imagine he wants to put Zionists in their place one final time, as jokerfied as possible, before he leaves the earth.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

He explains his 'IM BAAAAAACK!!!!!' in the tru annon interview, he had essentially retired because it had been his entire life for over 30 years and he had to come up for air and be a person aside from that somehow. Then October 7th

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Someone linked an AMA Norm did nine years ago where he's talking about non violence resistance, and its aged pretty poorly because a few years later the Palestinians would attempt the Great March of Return protest and thousands of them would be kneecapped by Israeli snipers. According to his TrueAnon interview, that event killed any belief he had in nonviolent protest against the Israelis (as well as completely discredited him among the Palestinians because he had been such a strong advocate for it).

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

His second appearance on trueanon is heartbreaking. He talks about how he hoped Palestine would be on a trajectory to be freer once he left, and now he doesn't have that hope. He mentioned the ward in a Gazan hospital he funded that is named for his parents, and how that is probably destroyed, which Brace confirms and Norm just says something like "of course" and that is right when the episode ends. Just a gutpunch.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

I think years of things being quiet can make people think a communist has mellowed out when really all they needed was something to relight the flame.

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 76 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

debatejak uh, summa-lumma, dooma-lumma–
finkelstein mr bitchless, you are god's greatest accident

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 72 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

In an AMA he did on reddit-logo 9 years ago.

Norm - I am an old-fashioned communist (with a lower-case "c"). I don't think borders and States make sense. The world is a tiny place, the fundamental challenges confronting humankind - climate change, economic dysfunction-- can only be solved on a global scale. My heartstrings still resonate to, "The Internationale shall be the Human Race." CommiePOGGERS

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 61 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apparently this whole thing is five hours long

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

you shouldnt it sucks just 5 hours of people talking over each other

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is the video sped up and Norm just talks super slow or does Mr. Borelli just talk that fast? How do you become a famous internet personality for talking if you sound like that? Voice modulation software?

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago (3 children)

That's just how people confuse Destiny with being smart, he talks fast

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Round here we call it Shapiroing"

shapiro-gavel

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

he literally sounds like ben in this, i got confused for a sec

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I think it’s pretty great how there are two prominent public intellectuals with high, croaky voices who look vaguely alike: Jordan Peterson and Noam Finkelstein, and they’re mostly on the opposite of the issues.

The difference is that Finkelstein actually has something valuable to say most of the time whereas Peterson cries about fat women offending him on twitter

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[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago

Even his ally on his side of the table is laughing at him.

[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago
[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

At the end he wrote a memo for himself. "read chapter seven."

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No idea what they're talking about or who they are apart from Norm. This has the vibe of leftists arguing about Marxism lol.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Destiny isn't a leftist, he was a i guess Bernie guy, could be wrong there, borderline soccer Lib who debated maga people or something for a while and became a proto vaush and I guess still exists. The guy that looks like Colm Meany is some zionist creep but he's at least read a book or two and handles the real arguing while Destiny looks at his phone. The bald guy is Finklestein's roommate or something. It's reddit incarnate attempting to punch waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over his weight and failing hard.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Vaush came out of Destiny's community as a more left wing version of him, if that's any indication of what we're talking about with this guy. His popularity peaked when he was debating maga chuds but then he started debating left-leaning people and revealed himself to be a militant centrist.

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Destiny and Evil Colm Meany vs Norm Finklestein and Man

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Smiley wasn't too bad, he kidnapped sisko but also saved his ass multiple times.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago
[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

What amused me is the 40 different mispronunciations of that dunce’s last name as he could create

“mr Bonchabelli!”

“mr Bonelltelli”

“mr Morelli!”

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

I like how Mouin Rabbani just sitting there looking at this trainwreck

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