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[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's not that I think Russia is a free and fair democracy, it's clearly filled with corruption like all liberal democracies. it's just the misinformation about why and the utter hypocrisy and -100 self-awareness on criticising it.

  • Navalny was never that popular, nore were any of the opposition members who were "banned" (for allegedly forging signatures). Nobody contests this, just western media like to act as if he mattered at all, and will never dare admit that the real opposition to Putin is commies (even if name only).
  • Russia has not banned any of the actually major opposition parties, while Ukraine actually has explicitly banned almost all opposition.
  • Acting like it's not common practice in all western democracies to deny people from being listed on ballots due to bureaucratic technicalities. They all do it.
  • Putin's vote share does actually line up with widely accepted polls of his popularity. Russia is a country at war with a 1/6th of the world, the West, so it's little surprise to have an especially high rate now.

My constant reaction to libs arguing Putin is Hitler is "Sure whatever, now admit the state of democracy in your western country is about the same or worse and how that is the problem, Putin isn't special."

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Acting like it's not common practice in all western democracies to deny people from being listed on ballots due to bureaucratic technicalities. They all do it.

There are like 2 dozen candidates in the 2024 US general presidential election who will not be listed on any ballots for far less legitimate reasons. Candidates get dropped because they would make the list too long.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the average liberal thinks this was supposed to be an election between Navalny and Putin. That's how misinformed they are.

You're also right. Putin is massively popular in Russia at a level libs can't seem to comprehend. The only major opposition he has involve the communists, but they mostly align with Putin's foreign policy anyway. Most polls show Putin with a 85% approval rating and libs will always think numbers like that are unfair or fabricated.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm uncertain if American libs can even conceptualize the idea of a popular government with broad public support. They seem to think that winning more than 55% of votes means the election was rigged and that if a government has an approval rating about 30% they're faking the poles.

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[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Lack of credible opposition"

(According to his Wikipedia article, Kharitonov even quit in the previous political party he was in because it became part of United Russia)

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

certainly one of the names of all times

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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there elections that aren't "state-managed?"

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For real. US elections are multi-year multi-billion dollar media extravaganzas managed by an army of consultants and media professionals

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember when the candidate selection vote for the Democrats in several key states used an untested black box app developed by one of the candidates?

Definitely no corruption here

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only Russians had a real choice between Putin and 101% Putin it would have been a wholesome freedom democracy like in the west.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well they had a real choice, several times, between Putin and a various copies of Yeltsin.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Biden extends one man-rule in America after stage-managed election devoid of credible opposition

1 hour ago • Atheist Jones

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia has spent all of their budget on the war, so they can no longer afford podium stands and speakers have to hold them up themselves.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Putin won because he was the only candidate capable of a perfectly steady grip.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

there's a thin black metal pole underneath it that's camouflaged by Putin's suit. You can see the contours of it if you squint

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[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Russia Ukraine war for me is a situation where all the players are just bad or worse but goddam is lib rage hilarious

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

It's honestly the best part of this war, the libs really go mask off over it.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every newspaper in Britain is running with the 'no real opposition' line on the Russian election.

While simultaneously talking non-stop about a snap election between the Tories & Labour.

While also running lots of Tory-soothing stories about how Labour have vowed not to undo Tory policy.

Beyond parody.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am reminded of Yanis Varoufakis' story about German finance minister Wolfgang Schäuble screaming at him that "elections can not be allowed to change economic policy!"

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[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Comrade CNN highlights the pointlessness of electoralism to achieve system change

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Russians don't even have a choice between putler and 99% putler, smdh.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Russia, you are given exactly one option for President and everyone is required to agree that he is the only person fit to lead the country.

In America, you are given three choices. One of them is a senile baffoon who will most assuredly spell the end of the Republic if he is elected. The other is a throwback to the 1980s who is coasting entirely on name recognition. And the third is a failson without any credible leadership qualities, who simply runs because he doesn't have anything better to do.

One of these countries will have 75% election turnout. The other will be lucky to crack 60%. Care to guess which?

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of them is a senile baffoon who will most assuredly spell the end of the Republic if he is elected. The other is a throwback to the 1980s who is coasting entirely on name recognition. And the third is a failson without any credible leadership qualities, who simply runs because he doesn’t have anything better to do.

I am disturbed by the fact I can't tell which one is which

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Westoid media seems to be making a big deal about the lack of "international observers" to the Russian election. When was the last time you heard about official international observers in western elections?

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

To anglos it is common knowledge that a war-time president who holds off the hated enemy and manages to stabilize the country while somewhat improving or at least maintaining standards of living will be very unpopular and lose elections.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

How long has Bibi ruled fascist isntrael ?

Maybe if the west stops trying to shove guaido-despair into every election or bomb election ballot trucks or create nuclear exetential threats to Russia they might have some more "favorable" changes? Almost like the more we keep fucking with Russia, the more the Russian population resists. Really fucking strange!

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

What happened to the like 20% polling that the KPRF had a while back?

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