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https://slavoj.substack.com/p/a-leftist-plea-for-new-imperialist

He's earnestly advocating for imperialism.

I'm just going to post the last paragraphs and bold of the most eyebrow raising sentences.

So how are we to act in this depressive situation? We should above all avoid the false “public use of reason” which advises neutrality and the search for peace through negotiations. The most disgusting thing to do at this moment is to repeat with triumph the old motif “we were telling you for years that Ukraine cannot win…” – obviously true, but whatever the final outcome will be, Ukraine achieved an unexpected miracle in resisting Russia for such a long time. Another stupidity is the idea that the Ukrainian war is just a moment of the conflict between Russia and NATO, with thousands of Ukrainians sacrificed to the NATO interests to weaken Russia. Are Ukrainians really so stupid to play this role while they could have enjoyed peace? What peace? Russian occupation which would annihilate them as a nation… This is why the alternative “peace through negotiations or war” is a false one: Ukraine will be in a position to negotiate only if it will remain strong enough to present a real obstacle to Russian invasion.

In such a predicament, the only serious option is to finally accept that we are entering a global emergency state: we are at war and only a full Western commitment can give Ukraine a chance. The same holds for Gaza - here again only the US military intervention can save things. Not long ago a picture circulated from inside Gaza showing smoke billowing from the explosion of a US-supplied bomb, and discernible in the background was the outline of eight black parachutes dropping US aid in precisely the same neighborhood.[2] This photo renders perfectly the opportunism of the US politics: supplying the arms to bomb Gaza and then helping the people whose lives were ruined by these same bombs – this is what humanitarian help means today.

The US has been humiliated again and again. As crazy as this may sound, the fact that the US are no longer able to act as a global superpower also has its bad aspects - history repeats itself, just recall the US army’s withdrawal from north Syria to protect the Kurds, as well as the premature withdrawal from Afghanistan. **As I already suggested in a recent text of mine, ideally the US (with some allies) should simply invade Gaza from the sea, establish its own power zone there where millions of civilian refugees will be safe, providing for their elementary welfare and in this way constrain Israeli power - it is a safe bet that Israel would not risk an open conflict with the US. In crazy times, crazy acts are needed. **Before you dismiss this idea as madness, think realistically what would happen! It would be a great relief for millions of starved and bombed civilians. Similarly, one should take the risk to raise the Ukrainian war to a higher level, setting clear red lines that Russia should not overrun. One should, of course, proceed very carefully not to provoke a global war – but, again, the only way to prevent a new global war is to take calculated risks now.

Will something like this happen? The one thing one can rely on is that the US regularly miss the opportunity to use (whatever remains of) its global imperialist power for a good cause.

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[-] pressurized@hexbear.net 84 points 5 months ago

did you guys just hit your head every other time zizek said something insanely reactionary and imperialist for the last 20 years or do you limit your engagement with his work to "lol another funny raccoon man reference!"

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 74 points 5 months ago

Zizek had one interesting observation about how fascists are ironic now, but his career started with being an anti-communist in Yugoslavia and it completely tracks that he's a pro-NATO "leftist" now.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

Zizek has a bunch of interesting and even genuinely insightful observations about the world, at large, but every time he says anything about a specific issue he gets it wrong and has done it forever. Man's just really good at looking at vibes of systems

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I dont think this is true either, he thinks people need to be like, more ascetic and neurotic, because Freudianism, which is incorrect and wrong

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[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He was always shit for me, don't know why so many communists liked him? Was it his edgy takes on pop culture? Pic of him with a Stalin portrait behind him? He was already a big lib when Yugoslavia ended, but did you all miss his take when Fidel died? He went on RT and said Fidel should be forgotten because the Cuban Revolution accomplished nothing. An Ivory tower academic calling one of the greatest Revolutionaries a failure. Glad this Ukraine War has exposed his true form.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

“We all eat from the trash can” just makes for a good quote.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

I think the real reason is that many communists slowly grew into their positions and during that same time period there weren't that many public figures on the left so there's kind of a grab bag of public figures for each person.

I don't think that a Bernie bro from 2016 would necessarily have a principled stance on the bombing of Yugoslavia even if they had become a communist since then, but would have still watched funny schniff man say fascism is horny on film.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

didn't he own a different guy we don't like? the last four out of five times i've heard he said something it was to dunk on him though.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago

He debated Jordan Peterson and made him look like a clown but half of that was Peterson making an ass out of himself googling shit mid debate. The Finkelstein/Destiny debate had that same thing happen but it's funnier and better because Finkelstein is really knowledgeable about the subject, is a complete debate monster, and he kept getting Mr. Divorcelli's name wrong until it turned into a meme.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Norman Finkelstein And Kendrick Lamar: A Parallel Analysis Of Debate In The 21st Century

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 67 points 5 months ago

Who fell off harder, Zizek or Chomsky?

Parenti stays winning, of course.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 81 points 5 months ago

Zizek. I think Chomsky at least comes from a place of sincerity. Zizek doesn't give me that vibe.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

I think Parenti has dementia, unfortunately.

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

And yet he stays on top compared to these chumps

Still, very unfortunate for Parenti's health to decline as it has

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

The candle lit on both ends burns twice as bright but half as long sadness

[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

Meanwhile dead-motherfucker was still cogent at 100. Parenti's body of work has just held up much better than either of the others.

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 65 points 5 months ago

"The most evil thing you could possibly do right now is point out that we were wrong and you were right and that we're a bunch of know nothing warmongering dipshits. In fact, doing so is reactionary."

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

"Shnifff the uh, the worst thing to do now ish for the tankiesh to point out that I have shit myshelf. Yesh, thish ish true, I have been walking around with, shniff, with pantsh full of shit for weeksh, and yesh, they have been begging me to wear clean pantsh and even offering me clean pantsh thish whole time, but it ish important, shniff, that we do not ashk how we got here, shniff, or place blame on anyone but the people begging me not to walk around covered in shit all the time."

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 61 points 5 months ago

zizek be like: fellow leftists i discovered one weird trick how by aligning with imperial machine i can bring positive change.

Neocons: first-time ?

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 55 points 5 months ago

Comrades

Let me stop you right thereno-copyright

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 5 months ago

Zizek was always a lib, anyone who was paying attention would not have been fooled by that leftist character that he seems so fond of playing

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

Zizek never found the plot to begin with, i honestly think any of you who ever had an unironically positive view of him simply misunderstood the joke of whatever gave you that impression. it would be like posting some dumb racist shit trump said and going "has trump lost the plot?" like yeah, of course he's a reactionary, it's nothing new.

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

i have no idea how people subscribed to an idealogue that unironically thinks neurosis is good

too much of the defenses I’ve seen of him have basically boiled down to schrodinger’s asshole

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

He's always been like this lol.

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[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

Zizek is funny and a little insightful when he is talking about movies

He's not the only pop philosopher who really just wants to review movies

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are Ukrainians really so stupid to play this role while they could have enjoyed peace?

I'm just baffled by this argument. Like.. yeah people have always fallen into traps like that, it's basically all History

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

It's not even stupidity, it's just the logical extension of nationalism.

If you think in terms of Volk and Nation, you're going to hate your country's enemies and put all ills of the world on them - to the point where you might be persuaded to pick up a gun and start slaughtering fellow proletarians.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago

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[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

A person who advocates for the use of racial slurs on the ground of free speech using “”marxist”” reasoning turn out to be a bigot and an eurocentrist

shocked-pikachu

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago

I keep telling you, this is what happens when witches curse raccoons into being human beings

Their little raccoon brains can't handle it

[-] yuli@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

he should’ve retired years ago. like his work on lacan and ideology was very insightful especially with the connection to hegel, but now he could miss the point if it was right in front of him.

no zizek, nobody is arguing that ukrainians chose between being nato cannon fodder or being free. that’s not the argument, you’re just an old man yelling at clouds.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I-was-saying

Unironically Ukraine did choose between being nato cannon fodder and their freedom.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

The Ukrainian government chose between making their citizens cannon fodder and having peace, while the citizens were conscripted into the war at gunpoint.

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[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He was born, raised and educated in Yugoslavia, a brilliant student until he got addicted to western slop movies which destroyed his brain

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

A brilliant student who apparently was actively anti-communist

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

people forget that he was a big lib when Yugoslavia fell, I think he just found his edgy niche in being a contrarian "communist" afterwards.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

2022 and the Ukrainian war has been another 1914 in terms of verification of principles and theoretical level. Fortunately, all existing AES passed, and predictably, westolefto failed.

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[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

zizek never had the plot, he was always a hack and it was self evident

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[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Slavianus Zizekius pleads for the Emperor of Ravenna to not withdraw the legions from Britannia, because that would mean the victory of barbarians and the annihilation of Roman civilization there.

He does not want to prevent World War 3. He wants the west to win it, which he sees as the preferable form of society to the west's rivals and does not advocate for an overthrowal of capitalism and its state. What does that make him? A... Liberal, perhaps? curious-marx

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

"To solve the genocide, the US should directly invade and hold Gaza so that Israel as an ally doesn't strike it"

A couple points to Zizek for creativity, I suppose.

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[-] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

Not new, he's been reactionary for a while

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't think he's ever "had/found the plot" to be honest. He's more of someone you laugh at or with, than take seriously on ideological matters.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

The breakup of Yugoslavia and its consequences have been a disaster for mankind.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

what do you mean, he's always been an anti-communist

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[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

"Leftist" continues to be a label that can mean basically anything

[-] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Its pretty obvious zizek is specifically a eurocommunist with eurocommunist brainworms. Something about thinking ur a european fries the brain sadly as objective historical processes have shown.

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