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[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is some expert-shapiro levels of debate bro

[–] proletarian_girlboss@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my second favorite Ben Shapiro image.

[–] Emanuel 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, I'll bite. What's the first one?

[–] proletarian_girlboss@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lochat@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you mocking that little boy for playing dress-up? Mean.

[–] proletarian_girlboss@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is not a little boy. This is a real certified cowboy ready to start his day at the ranch.

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A shame the one of him holding the blade is not confirmed and could be a different guy.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

the one of him holding the blade is not confirmed

disappointment: immeasurable

day: ruined

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He just can’t stop can he. I’m 69 replies deep with that loser in a different thread.

If you see people claiming to be Germans but they’re not posting from a .de instance you can be 100% they’re Nazis.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ackshually, he's just Nazi-Adjacent, not an actual Nazi

Did you even read the article he posted which is just a link to a wikipedia hosted image of the hammer and sickle with the implication that it is a swastika?

Or any of the ones after that?

Obviously, he's just a normal, totally non-facist anti-communist

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Market place of ideas

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All they did was change their flag from one symbol widely used by neo-Nazis to another symbol widely used by neo-Nazis. Why do you tankies keep calling them neo-Nazis?!

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, it is the Nuosu word for "foot", as written in the Yi syllabary invented in 1974.

[–] Buchenstr@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These people ffs, I had one argument with this Finnish liberal on how linked their country was with nazism, literally I show this guy swatiska's were lobbed by eric von rosen, a nazi politican, and this dick came out with a "nuh uh, its a Sanskrit". This guy its just another fascist.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

berdly-actually Actually, Finland used the swastika not as a Nazi symbol at all, but in honour of the favourite emblem of a generous man who donated the airplanes that established the Finnish airforce in the 1930's!

Please do not ask questions about that man's nationality or political affiliation during that decade.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never met any anarchist that gives a shit about pedantry over what runes the nazis are using.

Met a lot of liberals like that though.

[–] notceps@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah this guy is not an anarchist, he's a german green voter that will bring up shit like the teutonic order or germanic tribes and shit which either means he's an actual fash or an unscratched liberal that plays too many Paradox games.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you're German, you have studied history, or you're a committed antifascist then if you know what a Wolfsangel is, you get all of my suspicion.

I honestly suspect this person is a fascist who is larping, although I haven't seen any of their other comments so weigh that accordingly but if you know what a Wolfsangel is then you almost certainly know what it represents and who used it so using your knowledge of it as a defence doesn't line up imo.

[–] Chapo0114@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sad, I used to draw that symbol all the time on my papers and stuff as a kid and have always wondered if it was some kinda rune or something. Turns out its used by Nazis, neo and otherwise. 😮‍💨

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Objectively, in my subjective opinion, it's a cool looking symbol. And so is the swastika. (Cancel me now!)

There's no minor coincidence that cool looking symbols that are simple enough to write/carve/etch became embedded in historical traditions and what you did as a kid is probably where a lot of runes and other symbols started from as well.

It's just a shame that fascists coopt this shit and ruin it for everyone. Take heart at the fact that we are fighting for a world where, some day long into the future, these symbols will be able to be used again (ignoring the fact that the swastika is commonplace in the east in Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism for argument's sake lol) without there being anything besides a historical factoid that some nerd will drop to mention that these symbols were associated with this political phenomenon that was called "fascism", because fascists themselves will be little more than a historical footnote.

[–] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Radlibs thinking they’re anarchists. A tale as old as time.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure you even qualify as a radlib anymore once you're defending Azov, regardless of what you call yourself.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How about literally joining Azov?

Due to the lack of a massive organization, the first [Ukrainian] anarchist and anti-fascist volunteers went to war individually as single fighters, military medics, and volunteers. They tried to form their own squad, but due to lack of knowledge and resources, this attempt was unsuccessful. Some people even joined the Azov battalion and the OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists). The reasons were mundane: they joined the most accessible troops. Consequently, some people converted to right-wing politics.

😳

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reasons were mundane:

Mundane would be refusing to eat because you had just brushed your teeth, not "eh, guess I'll join these Nazis." Not to mention given the fact they live in Ukraine and are supposedly anarchists they'd be aware of all the shelling in East Ukraine going on all those years, and all the Nazi punks in the various ranks of military and police. You know, they'd have been against them before the Russian military operation....

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Guess I'll join the fascists?

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

went to war individually

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Libs: "Z gesture some of the Russian soldiers do is basically swastika!"

Also libs: "Akschually the wolfsangel is very different from Nazi symbols and is not at all associated with them and has no history of such and shut up don't you know utkin and also they're not at all doing the Nazi salute and it doesn't count anyway SHUT UP SHUT UP!"

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

"Erm, ackshually it's a Roman salute so how can you go claiming that they're a fascist if you don't know if they have Italian heritage or not?"

— this guy, probably

[–] learn3code@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"It's not a swastika, bro. It's a black sun that's totally different, bro. Brrrrooooooooooo" stalin-gun-1

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

azovites hiding in NYC after the war is over be like:

[–] driving_crooner 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, that shit looks like how I used to write the roman letter Chi for the Chi square in my statistics class until a friend asked me why the fuck I had swastikas all over my homework.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] driving_crooner 17 points 1 year ago

In statistics, when used on the chi square, chi is wrote like this

x is already overused all over the place, imagine writing x^2 to talk about the chi square.

[–] MCU_H8ER2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I'm paraphrasing, but once I saw a post about how pedantry is the lowest form of discourse .

the swastika is a wolfsangel

the nazis drew what they intended to be a stylised wolfsangel it was the British who recognised it as an Indian symbol. Germany not having at that point much interaction with India and the Nazis weren't exactly curious about other cultures

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Pedants get the wall

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what did they mean by this?

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this has been said about white supremacists before, but why do they always look like the same reedy white boy or balding middle aged man that shaved all his head off during a mid life crisis?

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what's particularly ironic is that everyone in these pictures are slavic peoples who the nazis considered "untermensch" to be exterminated. Truly bleak that there are slavic nazis.