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Apple, Microsoft, Sony…it’s cool to hate them but can we please direct some fucking ire to this absolute pinnacle of piece of shittery that’s always on the frontier of the shittiest business practices in all things IT?

How has this compamy escaped a class action lawsuit by the entire population of the world?

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Due to union rules i am actually not allowed to hate Adobe more than I currently do sorry.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This company is literally just taking the piss and you’re allowing it to happen?

‘Please subscribe to our Premium experience to access this ugly ass font’

What the fuck

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just making a "union rules" joke. I use gimp, inkscape, and a bunch of other stuff. I despise adobe.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is there an open source alternative to acrobat? That’s all I fucking need.

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Yes, absolutely. I use Okular when I need to fuck with pdfs. It's quite decent in my experience. Great pdf reader and allows you to annotate, sign, fill forms, everything I've ever had to do with a pdf, really.

Libreoffice has pretty good PDF capabilities

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Your white hot ball of rage has been burning other employees recently Frank, we need you to settle down.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I was in college and we got student license edition I always preferred to use pirate-jammin on principal alone...and it somehow performed better than the licensed edition.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Ealways, it’s always like this. I almost expect customer support to better for pirated copies

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I will literally never use Adobe software. My wife pirated some but I do not bother using it.

[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this tbh, I will put up with a lot of jank to escape subscription fees, especially predatory "monthly" (yearly) fees

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

To be real I don't think the GNU Image Manipulator even has that bad a UI. Like yes it's convoluted but A) that's literally Adobe's fault B) you need a wiki for both anyway

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[–] NewDark@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's because they aren't quite as ubiquitous. Most the people heavily involved with Adobe products do so for creative work, and that's a relatively small niche comparatively.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They literally own pdfs, which have some how become necessary in every business and government administration.

[–] NewDark@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Sure, that's about the extent of the everyday use case, a shitty file format. Im not talking about search, email, calendar, operating systems, and all kinds of other things you will regularly touch on the internet.

In not saying Adobe isn't prominent, just comparatively a lot smaller.

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It's crazy to me that Adobe has managed to to make any money. Their software products at their core are pretty solid, however all of their products are covered in barbed wire and throned vines. The idea that basic features require a subscription is beyond bonkers to me. I don't know how they managed to survive the 90s at all.

I hate Adobe, all my homies hate Adobe, and it's deeply frustrating there has not been a meaningful alterative yet.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

businesses buy the licenses for their employees

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

the affinity suite is a good alternative if you're not on linux, not that adobe supports linux last i checked. There's also https://www.photopea.com/ Really depends on the use case, plenty of better painting options out there now. For photo editing, a dedicated raw editor can cover a lot of territory. For compositing heavy stuff, I use gimp or even blender. inkscape is awesome for vector work.

i could go on. i think a lot of people forget how difficult it was to learn adobe software when they started, and it's tough to switch and lose that muscle memory, but even if the alternatives aren't as good, most have been improving over the years and adobe has just gotten worse and worse. Redirecting money from adobe to alternatives will accelerate that.

It's also much easier to write scripts for adobe alternatives, so it's possible to get productivity boosts in that domain, depending on how you work.

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Adobe managed to suppress the entire field of creative software by buying out every potential future competitor and killing off their product, for decades, until everybody forgot that's a kind of software you can make.

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've been hating Adobe since I was a child, before it was cool.

..Nah, who am I kidding, Adobe has pretty much always been hateworthy. They really pioneered some of the most awful modern day payment and DRM models.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

As someone trying to become more creative. By God do I hate Adobe. They’re greedy pigs and proud of it.

I also hate it for what it represents, they’re industry standard so if you want to follow your dreams and become a creative. Guess what? You have one of many paywalls in your way to stop you. There is nothing porky wants more than for all arts to be luxury hobbies for only the rich.

[–] erik@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Say what you will about Apple, I gave them a couple hundred bucks almost fourteen years ago and I can just use their video editing suite as much as I want and they give me every updates on the reg.

[–] git@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can also pirate their pro software by walking into an Apple store and copying the app from /Applications onto a thumb drive. No DRM or copy protection whatsoever.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

that's what I call a pro-tip

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

I would probably buy PS, but I will not subscribe to it. Gimp does what I need on the rare occasions I need to do something.

Acrobat is just dumb. I don't see any benefit to it over free/cheaper alternatives.

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

At least Photoshop CS6 is easy as shit to pirate

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

i don't know anyone who likes adobe

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Despite the huge market share PS is so much worse & less convenient than my usual digital art program, Clip Studio. What do you mean you can't non-destructively mirror a canvas in PS?!?

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Ps is better for photos. Drawing on Ps is bad compared to free alternatives, like Krita, I love Krita

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I had to switch to a different PDF reader because for the life of me I couldn't get the dumb little AI assistant to quit covering the corner.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

the dumb little AI assistant

Somewhere in hell Clippy is laughing.

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Firefox has honestly been a better PDF reader than the inventors of the PDF for about a decade now.

Adobe PDF reader is the peak of bloatware and really shouldn't be installed anywhere anymore. Last I saw, it was like 400MB of software to read-only open a file type? Could be gigs if they have AI shit in it now too.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Any day now Adobe will probably cram some (more?) "AI" shit into their racket too.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

yeah they're already doin that

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

i use pirated 5-6 years old versions of PS and AI (illustrator, not the machine learning buzzword) that don't have any AI (the machine learning buzzword) features and all the DRM functions have been neutered. i bought a download link on taobao for like 10 kuai, worth it.

i use them because the alternatives (gimp/inkscape) are pretty shit imo, but for drawing and colouring i use krita which is actually pretty good

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Acrobat is the most unusable piece of shit I've ever had the displeasure of trying to read simple text PDFs on. Glad I remembered Sumatra exists goddamn

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I pray that a decent alternative to their suite becomes Linux-compatible (even if it's just a buggy WINE prefix) because whilst Adobe sucks ass, I'm struggling with Inkscape and GIMP (though I'm pretty decent at both nowadays)

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[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Before I even knew to hate Adobe, they were my favorite company to pirate from in college. Them and ChaosGroup

I am admittedly not a super-user, I basically only use vector and raster editing maybe once every 6 months, but for what it's worth I've managed to survive using affinity for most of my needs. I work in the AEC industry so we have a different PDF editor (thankfully)

I think affinity avoids getting under Adobe's skin by omitting certain popular features (for example, Designer still does not have image trace, which was probably 50% of what i used illustrator for), but otherwise they're serviceable

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago
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