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Yeah I know dating apps bad etc

I paid 17 dollars for the week pass allowing me unlimited likes 💀 of course because I’m desperate and they force you into that choice because using it for free you only get 5 free likes a day lmao. The problem is NOBODY fucking responds back to my messages, I’ve had 2 conversations out of 20 matches, one of the convos died after I asked them out, the other convo just ended abruptly for no apparent reason. It’s really demoralizing to say the least but I just don’t understand, if they don’t like me and accidentally sent a like they should just unmatch right away but they don’t.

The future is grim. How does anyone meet anyone anymore?

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[-] Detectorist@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 17 hours ago

Conversations with total strangers on an app is liberalism. Ask them out in the first like/message.

"Hey, (person name) I really dig your profile, would you like to take a walk in the park or grab a cup of tea sometime?"

It's that easy. No conversations, ever. Like another comrade said, masc presenting/dudes never ask women out. So you will be a refreshing change of pace. You can't tell if you like someone via text anyway. You'll find out within 15 minutes in person. (In my opinion)

Ask out everyone you're interested in at a slow pace. Line up three dates for the weekend. Expect two to cancel.

Don't ask for a date "sometime", give it a time frame like "this week". Short conversations are perfectly fine and lead to more than 1/3rd of your dates showing up.

[-] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 5 points 17 hours ago

Going to events, hobby meetups, clubs, etc, is always going to be 100x more effective at meeting people than the accursed apps. They have a financial incentive for you to be unsatisfied and keep swiping. Obviously don't be that person who shows up just to try to pick up people, but seriously you gotta go outside. I understand if maybe you live in a remote area and there aren't many things going on, but in almost every situation going outside is more effective and less demoralizing than the apps. Especially if you can find something that's regular and you can attend weekly or monthly or whatever. That's how connections form naturally, by being in the same place as other people and slowly getting to know them. This thing where we look at some photos of people and then immediately try to talk intimately with them is extremely unnatural, it's no wonder it doesn't work very well.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Dating apps are literally luck based. At some point you'll see someone you like and they'll like you back, sure, but in reality that person might not be looking right now, or might be on a date with someone else and ignore their other matches until it falls through, or they might have given up altogether.

The hardest thing, but the best thing imo, is to try and back off a bit: do a few swipes on a break at work or whatever and then ignore it for the day. Maybe a few messages then ignore it for the day.


As for meeting people (albeit platonically in my experience), there are loads of activities that people like to do and meet people. Stuff like board games cafés often host mixers. My partner does gymnastics at an adults class where she's met friends. I know others who do climbing, running clubs, all sorts. You can probably find something you like by searching up a hobby you enjoy and "mixer" or "social".

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago

Dating apps make money by creating feelings of loneliness and desperation, and then selling you a promise of connection. But if they actually delivered, then you wouldn't be a repeat customer, would you? That's why dating apps are a pit of despair, I wouldn't recommend them.

[-] pacifist@hexbear.net 3 points 16 hours ago

met my absolute dream girl on Hinge a few weeks ago after grinding for a few months and getting curved multiple times. Keep on swiping it's worth it!

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

How does anyone meet anyone anymore?

You have to just find 1 friend with a healthy social life and everything becomes instantly easier since you'll regularly meet their friends, which is the most common way people get dates and new friends

Going from 0 -> 1 is always infinitely way harder to go from 1 -> 10

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 5 points 20 hours ago

You have to just find 1 friend with a healthy social life and everything becomes instantly easier since you'll regularly meet their friends,

Guess I need to find better friends because I have a couple of these and I've never met any of their friends lmao

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Hmm, they may also just think you don't vibe with their other friends tbh

Like I rarely host big social functions myself despite saying the above tbh because my friends are just so different from each other. Like I do not want to have a party with extroverted liberal tech bros, introverted straight edge career artists, chronically online ex-4chan commies, druggie "burnouts", etc.

I've had small 2-4 people hangouts before and they usually don't go that well even when I try to pick people that I think would vibe well with each other

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago

This is all true and what I figure to be the case too. Just feels like maybe I don't truly vibe with anyone and that I'm just the token "weird" friend.

Then again, a couple of them have also said they'd introduce me to some potential dates but then just never brought it up again so idk.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago

If it makes you feel better I rarely get invited to big social functions either lmao, maybe like once every few months

I'm just making friends with a bunch of other weirdos who accept my weirdness but also recognize I cannot vibe with most people

[-] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ban dating apps. all people must only meet at cracker barrel and approved walmart parking lots

i met my girlfriend on tinder. i’ve had multiple dates before off other dating platforms as well. facebook dating seemed the easiest to match with and talk to real people but that was back in its beta mode so i can’t speak for how it is now it’s definitely hard tho. especially when sometimes it seems like you’re clicking with someone and they just ghost you. but you’ll find someone you like who likes you too eventually. if i can do it then i think anyone can

[-] ma1w4re@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

I don't know myself. To be honest, I just gave up on the prospect of having a family and currently skillmaxxing to cope. But I find that it's easier to find people to talk to and make friends when you have something to accomplish or just do together, like college, some random classes, gardening club and such. And sometimes you know, friends might become more than friends. Or might not. Wouldn't hurt to try, eh?

[-] Beluga@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

I have 0 friends and been living in NYC for three years. I’m losing my mind lmao

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

What are your hobbies? There is almost certainly a group that meets regularly to do something you like

[-] Beluga@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

hahaha Their might just be a dialectical relationship between your hobby and lack of friends there comrade.

[-] Beluga@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

I’m looking into bouldering again but it’s having to commit to paying 130 a month which is a lot of money.

Yeah, there's no damn third spaces anywhere anymore. But for your health and well-being, that $130 a month might be well worth it.

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I been doing that although I pay less. I gotta say I've met a lot of people that way at least In the gym, haven't really met up with them outside of it but I'm always talking to people and and meeting people there

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[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I remember watching a short documentary on outdoor bouldering in NYC. I don't remember which park but there was something to climb somewhere and the community was really cool.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Go to play/kink parties. Start with a munch (casual social for kinksters) to dip your toes in. There's for sure tons in NYC. Depending on which ones you go to, you can also find ones with lots of queers, trans people, NDs, etc.

You can also try to find ones that fit your gender or racial identity though those are a bit harder

[-] Lerios@hexbear.net 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

i've heard about these and i'm interested. i'm not in the US but i am in a very large city, so they presumably exist, but i've no clue how to find one - fetlife was my only lead and that appears to be kind of dead. i picked up a flyer for a regularly scheduled kink party at pride, but that seems to be pretty intense and have a very high bar of entry (expensive elaborate dress code)

if i can find them, would it be weird to go to one of those as a virgin? i don't really know what i'm looking for or how to talk about some of these things 🙃 would it be safe to go alone as a visibly afab person?

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'm not into my scene, just been to a few and know friends who go a lot. You should def try to find fem parties, they exist where I am. Also, just coincidence but I went to a queer POC one and most people there were AFAB surprisingly. But the hosts were also mostly AFAB and it was largely private invite only

A lot of play parties are kinda private though since it needs to be a safe environment so you kinda just have to try and meet people in the scene. I didn't try to look for any but because I gravitate to people/spaces with lots of queers, drugs, art, and neurodivergence, there was a lot of overlap with kinksters

I don't think it'd be weird to go to one as a virgin. Actual penetrative sex and even oral sex in my area at least is rare since kink/play is much more expressive and varied than typical sex acts

[-] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

How does anyone meet anyone anymore?

Take up social hobbies, anything from rock climbing to tabletop rpgs will push people together
Meeting people this way also ensures you definitely have something in common

[-] ObamaSama@hexbear.net 4 points 22 hours ago

I’ve met some really good people through dating apps but it really is a numbers game. I’d say that on average out of 100 matches I only have 4-5 conversations that last longer than a few days before one of loses interest and stops replying. It can be pretty disheartening to churn through so many people but from my experience it pays to be picky. I’ve only ever been on 5 dates through dating apps but they all turned into relationships because I didn’t waste my time with anyone I didn’t feel a mutual connection with.

Stick with it and eventually you’ll find someone, just gotta be patient. Also it depends on where you are but I’ve found bumble to be the best as the girls on there are usually much more serious

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

I met my gf on Bumble after trying all the different apps. Dating sucks. It sucked before dating apps too. It just sucks different ways and in different intensities now. Don't take it personally. It's just the nature of it. Keep trying (not to the point of causing yourself pain) and you'll find cool people.

For what it's worth Bumble is what worked best for me. Actually got the most dates out of it.

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I met my ex on bumble and it was a very strong solid relationship for a long time. We had to break up due to like, irreconcilable differences but that was unfortunate

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Idk I get lots of likes and everything but guys literally just won't ask me on a date? I'll say something like "Oh I wanna meet first haha just to know you're not a crazy person and stuff" and they're like "haha yeah ok'" and then never actually plan a fucking date. Like come on.

On the other hand I have met multiple friends on dating apps lol. But that's way less pressure. I did meet a very long term partner on an app too I've had luck with them, I'm just honestly frustrated with how the men are, and how they basically want to fuck and don't want to put any basic legwork in.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 2 points 23 hours ago

Wait I thought you were bi, why not the women if you are :(

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago

Well I'm always interested in women but I've always dated women. Would like to try dating men. Who all seem very interested until they have to do literally any kind of thinking or work... Thing though is I don't accept this as expecting too much, I've done this stuff many times in my life when I was a guy. And it wasn't hard.

That being said I think I exist in a weird spot right now. I think some guys see me really as like a fem boy or something and are acting out some kind of chaser or gay fantasies, and as a result don't want to be seen with me in public. Or my vibe is a bit too masc for them... it's like I can talk to lots of people but nothing ever happens unless I make it happen. No one else is making it happen at all...

Ofc it's very easy to meet other trans women. It's now more difficult with cis women though, something I've noticed. I don't really get that but whatever lol

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's now more difficult with cis women though, something I've noticed

Same, though I'd imagine a lot of that is just there is way more cishet women than sapphic women. I've had way more interest with bi/lesbian enbies though, I feel like they typically only date other queer people

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

Oh yes part of it is that there are less lesbians however, I have over the past 8 months essentially had 0 interest from lesbians or even bi cis women. A little surprising tbh to me at least, I thought I would be an ideal for bi women

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

Come to the bay area girlie, your scene is weird

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

The only cis girl who has a crush on me is straight 😭🥲

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

lol this is way worse than I thought

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

Lmao who needs cis girls anyway

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

real, though the cis lesbians in SF are wonderful tbh, the cis bi ones are all the chasers and queerphobic

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Veeeerrry interesting. Yeah I hear a similar thing from other places from my friends. I mean, cis lesbians here are cool too it's just I don't think I'm very seen as a woman so there's just no interest. I need to do voice training lol I'm pretty sure that's seriously hindering me at this point

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

oh yea, voice training is super important. I've jokingly asked a few lesbians if they wanted to hear my deep voice and they were just like please no I don't want to hear that

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I've argued many times over with smug "nothing every happens, everything is exactly as good and bad as it always has been" smuglord types and one such topic that gets that treatment is dating, particularly online dating.

YES, online dating was less terrible before the bigger companies swallowed up the smaller ones and made a business of making successful dating less likely as a deliberate business strategy for further engagement.

For example, OKCupid used to actually be... OK.

[-] blame@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Hinge is a weird name for a dating app, sounds like the kind of place I'd go to to find a racist uncle to date.

Met my gf on Hinge. 5 free likes a day was plenty, I "liked" only people I legitimately was interested in going on a date with and sent them a message with the like. If they liked me back they'd usually send their own message (70%? more often than not) and I'd pitch a casual coffee date within a few messages. If they just "liked" me without responding I wouldn't double-text. If people aren't responding to you, I think there's probably something wrong with your messages. E.g. if you are sending like "hi", "what's up?", etc, people aren't gonna respond. If you message first (especially if you are masc) you gotta be prepared to carry the conversation and also show that you've looked at their profile. There may also be something wrong with your profile. Maybe you have a disqualifying quality, like being a communist, that people only notice after matching with you. If so I would suggest to make possible deal-breakers and red flags more obvious in your profile. Cuts down on the useless matches and makes your profile more interesting to the ones you're interested in.

You've probably already noticed this but in my experience Hinge skewed conservative. Pity since it's the best dating app tech-wise.

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah like I'll say I've done dating on both sides now, and I'm realizing that the competition if you're masc kinda sucks. Like, I was getting a lot of luck by just... Proposing a date, with a location etc, something casual pretty quickly? I picked up the tab etc all the things that are "expected" from a masc presenting person. And it usually went well.

In my experience most men out there basically want me to just come over and suck them off or something. They put in absolutely no effort and a good portion can't even control themselves not to be weird as hell and be overly horny with me. A good half of the messages I get are some version of "I want to fuck you now" which, tbh, is fucking weird!! Like I don't even know you sir!!

gross. honestly I've had a couple first dates that ended in sex and at least for straight men it's just not good bc of power dynamics. My armchair psychoanalysis is that these men either (a) are just legitimately fucked in the head and could still get their rocks off with a partner who is still background worried for her physical safety (b) don't actually want what they want, and that's why they're half-assing the whole dating app thing. So they can say they put themselves out there but they don't have to be actually vulnerable - self-destructive behavior except they're doing it by being actively shitty to women

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I met my partner through organising, respectfully asking each other out after months of working together

I've never met anyone on an app that didn't end up being an abuser (haha yay) don't move in with someone you just met, even if you have no other option

you have much more luck meeting people organically, take an art class, volunteer, don't go out with the intention of finding a romantic partner because thats weird, I just mean be patient

dating apps offer such an incestuous pool of people who have all met and had sex, and there's way too many people in their 30s trying to date 18 year olds

[-] hogslayer@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

dating apps offer such an incestuous pool of people who have all met and had sex

I always hear this, but then why can't I seem to get in on it?

I'd be happy if I could just find a FWB or casual sex or anything like that. But I can't even get that, and it just seems like either all the dating apps/sites are dead or I'm just not good enough for anyone's standards.

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 3 points 22 hours ago

I havent used them since 2018, and I was meeting almost exclusively trans women, which i suspect coloured my experience somewhat. Previous experiences dating cis women netted me a grand total of three dates in an entire year.

I can't hack casual sex, but I think thats what people used to go to clubs for

not really the vibe of this site and I dont want to engage in doxing anyone, but you could get a friend to check your profile maybe?

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