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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 82 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  1. China had a 460million population and 33 year lifespan when the revolution began. It's current modern day living standards, population size and lifespan is a direct result of Mao.

  2. Harvard Study directly contradicts everything this user just said about Chinese not being able to think critically, in fact Harvard says the reason 95% of Chinese support the government is because they brought real material improvements consistently that they have all lived through.

  3. Claiming they can't innovate is just racism. They are leading the world in research papers.

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Nono us university are filled with chinese scientist because they cheated to get in there or they were outliers who were so desperate to escape the US

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[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 73 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

twisted into a shameful echo of what we all know they could be

They're literally the next emergent global superpower but okay

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they could be cheap exploitable labor for mee, and communism took that from them rage-cry

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

Summed it up nicely. Thats why he mentions the population. A lot of people not being exploited by em

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago

plot twist it's actually a Maoist who thinks that the chinese kkkommunist party led by Deng ruined china

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Many would argue that they already are a superpower

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Have you considered that they'll be even more of a superpower when xi-plz

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[–] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 64 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You don’t have to imagine. Without Mao, China would be like India.

They both had been through a century or more of oppression and/or colonization resulting in the complete destruction of their economy, literacy, health etc. In 1947 and 1949, they were in very similar conditions.

And look at the difference between the two since then.

So, you don’t have to imagine. The world would be worse off. Now, if you had a Red India…

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

Pan Asian Combine would be unstoppable

[–] Angry_Stoat@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

In 1947 and 1949, they were in very similar conditions.

Not true. India was in a much better state well into the 70s, inheriting a lot of the British built infrastructures, and was able to trade with both the East and the West. Whereas China was completely war torn, and for a time, isolated.

Even though the PRC was proclaimed in 1949, the CPC at the time only controlled half the nation. Fighting with KMT and its aligned warlords on the mainland continued until the mid 50s, with smaller pockets holding out for several more years after. And not long after that, the Sino-Soviet split happened, compounded with the already placed US led sanctions, China was basically cut off from the rest of the world for nearly two decades. The fact the CPC was able to turn their fortune around and become an emerging super power is an amazing feat.

India more or less squandered its head start with its incompetent government, and it has only gotten worse post 90s with it fully embracing neoliberalism and religious fanaticism.

A Red India, would probably have seen the bigger picture and accepted Zhou Enlai’s border agreement, preventing future conflicts, and China would have been able to skirt the economic and technological sanctions via India, saving some hardships of the 60s and 70s.

Both nations would be more prosperous today, perhaps even tipping the scale a bit, preventing the Soviet collapse.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 59 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Dawg I do not know how you look at China in 2024 and don't think that they're literally kicking everyone's ass when it comes to innovation.

You're going to want a different yardstick if you're trying to shit on China.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yankees think China hasn't innovated because they haven't invented financial derivatives based on Pepsicola x Sourpatch Kidz futures

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Chinese could never invent bored apes

[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Where is the bacon flavoured Doritos ranch dressing of china? How about some ranch infused kung Pao sauce? Truly an uncultured society where you don't have thousands of choices for which sauce goes on the chicken nuggies. If I cannot experience choice paralysis at the grocery over items that have no real discernible difference than what is the point of living?

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[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

I remember when we kept getting treated to articles about China raiding all those mining operations and arresting everyone involved. Truly a better society.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Bruh in a lot of research or patent sites there is a looooooooot of chinese patents. I mean a lot. I don't know what he talking about

[–] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

leave it to a ledditor to write the most hideously racist thing i've read all month, and leave it to leddit to give him 1.7 thousand upvotes

these scumfucks can't be re-educated

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

scumfucks

I have a new word

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[–] Krem@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

MikeLaoShi

fucking westerners that go to china and get a nice ass high paid teaching job despite having no qualifications besides being a cracker and then have the nerve to whine about how not everything in china is the same as back home and le seeseepee is le evil authoritarian, despite having just witnessed the effects of the fastest increase in living standards and economic growth on earth

shut up and enjoy the privilege of being paid 25K/month for waving flashcards at kids and playing songs off a usb stick, or go home to kkkrakkkerstan

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah deffo posted from a nice apartment in downtown Shanghai or sthing lol what a joke

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

Dude for sure only interacts with other sexpats, hates "the locals", but loves being a pest to Chinese women, and then gets mad when random women on the street don't treat him like a god like the ones at the designated sexpat bars.

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh no what a fucking tragedy for mankind that the people of China live in a place where they actually have a positive outlook on the future.

Meanwhile I literally cannot even imagine the sensation of societal optimism.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Think of the advancements and innovations which could have come from China over the last 70 years but haven't

OH MY FUCKING GOD SHUT UP

Just because your stupid ass doesn't read about out on BBC or Forbes, or whatever the fuck rag you read doesn't suddenly change reality. I resent these people, and the worst part is I have to deal with them IRL, and they are always so fucking wrong and so sure of themselves. Always with their bullshit on how "free" and "enlightened" they are, unlike those poor, but also very evil, and scheming [slur] [slur] [slur] who live stuck in an echochamber devoid of the joys of life.

If only those "white mans burden" fuckers could stop existing suddenly I'd be over the moon.

EDIT: Also this person ought to be employed by a fucking cinema. That is some powerful projecting.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A few months ago they used genetic engineering to cure a guys diabetes, meanwhile we just keep innovating new ways to give people diabetes

I've gone through some lists of biotech patents and China is also by far the most advanced player in the skin and flesh transplant game. They've even worked out how to essentially drain the DNA from pig heart valves, leaving an empty extracellular matrix that can be recolonized by donor cells and made transplantable. Now they're starting to replicate these neutral matrices with 3d printing. Practically every single research paper I can find from the last ten years on cellular reprogramming, rejuvenation and age reversal includes a Zhang or a Zhao in the authors section.

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Instead the Chinese are leading the world in green technology, public infrastructure, scientific research, space exploration, and more. Smdh what could have been

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AT THE COST OF THESE NUTS

spoilersorry i just fucking hate this particular combination of these particular words like nothing else

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was so sure that the spoiler would be PPB

[–] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

same here, it punked me harder that it wasn't

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Redditors are incredibly delusional. China has its flaws but being backwards is not one of them.

The whole “stealing tech” used to be said about the Japanese too. I remember a Japanese woman talking about how she and her father went to some kind of tech expo in the early 70’s and some guy looked at them and said, “why should I show you anything? You people are just going to steal it anyway.”

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

Yeah, even the Back to the Future trilogy (with its racism idealizing the 50s) pointed this discrepancy out

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 months ago

I should pull this line anytime our bosses pull another public private partnership out from the depths of their asses.

[–] facow@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also "stealing" tech is just kind of how countries develop. It was explicit US policy to steal European patents during industrialization. There's no reason there should be a global monopoly on some idea

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[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago

If it werent Mao China would be 7 different countries all below poverty levels

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

a paleolithic incel didn't get laid 100,000 years ago. Humanity lost over a quadringentillion free thinking souls.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

The sad part is that there are likely many incels today that think this unironically

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

sinophobia and projection from an usaian, a member of the most propagandised state in the history of our world

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

we have parrots and sheep whose only advancements come through stealing others' work

Translation: "WAAHHHH THE PEOPLE AT WORK LAUGH AT ME FOR BEING A STUPID ILLITERATE AMERICAN!!!!"

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Youre telling me that the people who are world champions at mathematics, have insanely fierce competitive schools and have an insane number of scientists are somehow only capable of theft? Like something doesnt add up. China has its issues but its so racist to assume everything that comes out of China is theft

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

What a piece of shit. This kind of post sums up how all Westerners view the New China. Smug, condescending and racist.

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

haha what a loser

keep coping

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 months ago

the irony couldn't be any stronger

[–] Eldritch@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Everything he says about chinese people oddly applies to western crackers. Its always pure projection.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

What a coincidence this is how i feel about western europe and colonialism

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Its sounds like a description of the US

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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

I don't know what America's attitude toward intellectual property law was during its phase of industrial development and I see no reason to find out

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Its a shame that these Orientals cant be Real people like us hwites"

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