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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

If this has been made a week ago I would have gotten so much mileage out of it

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is going to be like those memes about “days since classified documents leaked on the war thunder forums” isn’t it?

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

nazi extermination squad members receiving awards and honors? in my settler-colonial project? inconceivable!

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

nazi extermination squad members receiving awards and honors? in my settler-colonial project?

It's more likely than you think. Call your local Anti-Fascist helpline to learn more!

[–] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in favor of the Nazi extermination squad barbara-pit tito-chad

[–] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I just checked the Barbara pit Wikipedia page and it's so friggin funny how it makes it seem that the victims were lil smol bean cuddly puppies that were just trying to defend their land from communism.

Nazism is not mentioned once.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is it just me or is an "apology for any distress or pain this may have caused" bullshit couched in leftish language?

Like, it's basically "I'm sorry you feel that way" but with a feigned concern for the "distress or pain". And it's not at all apologizing for having done it in the first place, just for how people reacted to it.

I see this shit everywhere in corporate (and I guess government) apologies and it feels so slimy.

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take a business English class if you wanna have a stroke. It's all like this. I especially liked the good news, bad news, good news format. Cause the good news is only good to the company and the bad news is how they are gonna screw you harder. It's so transparent even the textbook admitted it.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Burn the business schools

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the only reason they are apologizing now is because how this story has blown up. He's been in the Order of Canada since 1987. 36 years knowing full well that he served with the Waffen-SS.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Is it just me or is an "apology for any distress or pain this may have caused" bullshit couched in leftish language?

it's not just you

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s a non-apology. “Sorry you got offended”

Why don’t they strip them off all honors, do a retroactive review of the government and purge all ukronazi elements? That would require effort and would weaken support for Ukraine so they will never do that

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Canada is basically Argentina for Ukrainian nazis.

someone on twitter found this obscure youtube video with like 30 views It's a bunch of Canadian-Ukrainians in the 1980s getting hyped about the end of the soviet union. The guy self-describes as a "Banderite" around 7:29

[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Latuff must have been inspired by this in 2014

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xLq6sI4QAQ

This banderite guy is still around.

In a wide-ranging interview in the East Village on Tues., Feb. 15, 2022, Walter Zaryckyj (pronounced "Zarisky"), the executive director of the Center for U.S. Ukrainian Relations and a former New York University political science professor, talks at length about Russia's threatened invasion of Ukraine. He discusses the five possible invasion scenarios and also puts the current situation into historical context, including the connection to the forced Ukrainian famine of the 1930s that was perpetrated by Stalin. The most likely scenario that will happen if Putin takes aggressive action, he said, is that Russia will take over breakaway areas in eastern Ukraine. But to try to conquer all of Ukraine, including Kyiv, its capital and most populous city, Russia would need to bring in a much larger occupation force of 500,000 troops, which it is not currently in a position to do, Zaryckyj says. The interview runs 51 minutes. (Video by The Village Sun)

He was writing for the Atlantic Council in 2015 lmao

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-isn-t-winging-it/

more info here from the "Bandera Lobby" substack tracking this stuff

https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/exposing-the-bandera-lobby-in-the

more info about OUN-B / OUN-R in US from grayzone: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/29/ukrainian-ultranationalist-lobby-biden-russia/

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was writing for the Atlantic Council in 2015

every day I must resist the urge to become more smuglord towards people who wanted to argue with me about this shit in 2022.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s so fun always being right but nobody listening to you still

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Atlantic Council is made out of fish people, not human!

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/29/ukrainian-ultranationalist-lobby-biden-russia/

Demonstrating the power the ultranationalist Ukraine lobby has attained in Biden’s Washington, the White House has withdrawn consideration of esteemed Russia specialist Matthew Rojansky.

Throughout the Cold War, the UCCA waged war on Kennan’s containment strategy, condemning it as a form of appeasement while advocating a policy of rollback that could have resulted in all-out war.

“The collapse of Kennanism in this country is a good sign,” Lev Dobriansky, a former president of the UCCA and co-founder of the right-wing Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, once remarked. Dobriansky was a close ally of Yaroslav Stetsko, a notorious Nazi collaborator who succeeded Bandera as leader of the OUN-B.

In the 1960s, Dobriansky and other UCCA leaders even lambasted a rival OUN faction that had been backed by the CIA as too soft on communism. Despite its history of extremism, the UCCA has apparently attained considerable influence over the Biden administration, while realists like Rojansky have been effectively blacklisted.

A March 2021 policy conference in Washington highlighted the growing bond between the Banderite movement and belligerent Beltway foreign policy figures tied to the Democratic Party.

Called, “Divining the New Administration’s Approach to Ukraine’s Most Pressing Security Issues,” the gathering was co-sponsored by the UCCA and organized by the Center for US-Ukrainian Relations (CUSUR), which is tied to the hip of the Banderite OUN-B.

Several “experts” from the NATO-funded Atlantic Council participated in the Banderite-run event. They included Anders Åslund, the neoliberal and often clownish economist who participated in the US-organized looting of Russia’s economy during the 1990’s. True to form, Åslund smeared Rojansky as not only an uninformed Putin apologist, but as a potential Russian agent.

Meanwhile, Atlantic Council senior fellow Melinda Haring warned of “impending disaster and disfunction,” predicting that Rojansky would “clash” with the “very hawkish,” “savvy operator” Victoria Nuland. In other words, he might balance the notoriously neoconservative tendencies of the former Obama State Department advisor who is widely seen as having stage managed the 2014 Maidan coup in Ukraine.

Haring and her Atlantic Council colleague, former US ambassador to Ukraine John Herbst, sat silently while retired Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, the former commander of the U.S. Army Europe in 2014-18, denied that millions of Russians died in World War II.

During a previous panel, Atlantic Council senior fellow Daniel Fried also said nothing in response to his co-panelist, the nationalist Ukrainian politician, Hanna Hopko, sharing her goal of balkanizing Russia as Nazi Germany once aspired to do.

During the CUSUR event, Fried explained why New Cold Warriors like himself could never accept the appointment of someone like Rojansky. On issues related to Ukraine and Russia, Fried said the Biden administration “will not be a return to the Obama administration. It will be a return to the best sides of the Obama administration, without some of the disheartening debates that happened internally.”

Pointing to anti-Russia hardliners like Nuland and Secretary of State Tony Blinken as the “best sides of the Obama administration,” Fried articulated what has been made crystal clear by the Rojansky controversy. Having taken US-Russia relations to its post-Cold War nadir, the Russia hawks and their Ukrainian nationalist partners will be satisfied by nothing less than total control over Joe Biden’s foreign policy.

[–] sunshine@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah it really is..i found this one on internet archive, not even looking for it, just researching something totally different--probably because whoever uploaded it painstakingly typed up the whole vile transcript of this "1989 Tribute to Adolf Hitler speech"

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Klassen

For fucks sake why do mennos have to suck so much

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the deputy PM had a nazi grandpa and has defended the fuck out of him

[–] mechwarrior2@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if there will be any reckoning for Freeland's relationship with these dusty nazis being ideological in addition to familial. Probably asking too much of libs yea

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

yeah the lib response has already been to start rehabilitating the necessary ideological commitments of the dusty nazis, they're getting real close to rehabilitating the ideology itself.

honestly even as the lib hawks are rushing to get swastika tattoos, it's probably a good thing that the government is apologizing profusely and saying they'll do something about it.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this gonna be the Canadian version of our weekly mass shootings or what

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Well it's interesting in a way because a mass shooting, as bad as it is, only takes a few minutes to happen. This takes decades to happen. First you have to bring the nazi into your country. Then you have to let them get really old. And then you have to ignore them and let them ferment. And then you have to pickle them in vinegar to preserve them. Finally, when they've reached the proper age, you take them out of your wine cellar and bring them into the Canadian parliament. You declare them to be a vintage 1945 banderite and then pin several medals on their chest for the excellent pickling job you've done.

That and another blackface session.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago
[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Marvel films get Easter eggs

Canada gets random Nazis in news

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I notice there's no mention of revoking the appointment

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Lol, my co-worker's mom got the order of Canada for reasons he won't go into. That family is sus as fuck

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago
[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Alberta is, of course, a mining and other resource extraction colony. Who better to install as leadership than a settler colonialist finance imperiailst?

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Canada doing the thing Captain Crunch did with their "oops! All berries!" Cereal but it's all SS dudes.