"Not much is known about Generalleutnant Fritz von Kraut. We know he was a brave and competent military commander, but we don't know about his political beliefs or his attitude towards national socialism."

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[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My parents watched one recently which, to my incredible surprise, interviewed a living female Red Army sniper. She was the only Soviet representation, meanwhile they had on two or three guys from the German army talking about how bad things got at Stalingrad while they were attacking and blockading it.

Unlike the Germans, the Soviet woman wore all of her medals for the interview rat-salute-2

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unlike the Germans, the Soviet woman wore all of her medals for the interview

:Zhukov-Literally-Shining:

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

:zhukov-sigma:

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Top Comment:

"Sigma rule Zhukov: Reject Hitler from Stalingrad like art academy in Austria."

lenin-laugh

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The white devils can't help themselves, can't they

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was some German historian talking head saying it too stalin-stressed

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Yeah but since he supports isntrael he can't be antisemitic smuglord

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

Libs when talking about socialists and socialist projects during the cold war : "They were bad and evil and the people behind them just wanted to be bad and evil, because that's how bad and evil communists are."

Libs when talking about literal Nazis (or US war criminals) : Flattery and white washing, thinly veiled as "nuance."

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago (4 children)

'Fritz "Burner of Polish Villages/the Devil of Minsk/Drinker of Russian Maidens Blood" von Kraut is not known to have directly committed any warcrimes'

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Absolutely no idea what the political affiliations of Obersturmfuhrer Heinz "Der Jewslaughterer MegaNazi Prime" Hitler 2k could have been

[–] badbadcomrade@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

But did you see how uncivil those Slavs were being about their impending extermination? They didn't even get protest permits!

[–] D61@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

arm-L "Allegedly" arm-R

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Von Kraut's Unit, the 2nd Belarusian Town Destroyers allegedly burned down ten towns in Belarus"

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

The gentlemen soldier skillfully trapped the peasants via maneuver warfare, or Bervegunskrieg as it’s known among his noble Prussian military brethren.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

HE didn’t shoot Jews guys! He just ordered his troops to shoot Jews! That makes him an innocent smol bean uwu

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Rommel was a respectable guy even if he was playing for the opposite team" - a thing I've seen liberals seriously say more than once (except for the opposite team part, that was me doing some comedic hyperbole)

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's all part of the "Clean Wehrmacht" propaganda campaign to make incorporating the NAzis in to NATO palatable and keep anyone from asking what the Wehrmacht was doing in Eastern Europe.

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate that clean Wehrmacht feels quaint now that we have clean SS from kkkanada

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We’ll have clean Hitler soon enough

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Netanyahu already did that one

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4OcZ7d2lYsA&t=129

[–] axont@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Liberals also fall over themselves to say Robert E. Lee was brave and honorable and also a very handsome boy

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's another insidious bit of the propaganda regarding Lee and a narrative that he fought for The State of Virginia rather than the confederacy which is almost-but-not-quite saying he did it out of concern for states rights.

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

🥰

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

lmao they always are way too lenient with the Nazis while using every opportunity to disparage the Soviets.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Fritz von Kraut

I refuse to believe this is a real man

I believe wholeheartedly that he was a Nazi, but one ala Colonel Klink

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I could not remember what they said the guy's name was and substituted a joke that I hoped was obvious

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am high as shit at the moment, so forgive me and my chicanery

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Colonel Evil von Machinegunhands

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

general Pretzelwaffen der Schnitzelstoffen

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

Well, I have a name for my line of German chain restaurants now

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

He clearly got out of it by shouting "I know nothing! I see nothing!" when being on trial in The Hague.

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He was a nazi...

[–] badbadcomrade@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But what did he believe? thonk

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

What did he eat for breakfast? Did he put the milk before or after the cereals? How could you condemn him without knowing the answer to those questions just because he was a Nazi?

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They really love saying "national socialism" dont they

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

When you gotta pad the word count on the shitty essay you half assed the night before due date.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it is more to tie socialism to the Nazis

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

That's probably the real reason

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The allies should have shot every Nazi officer they got their hands on, but I guess if they did that they would have had no one to run NATO

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Churchill had a fucking cry when Stalin suggested killing between 50~100K N*zi officers. Guess he didn't want to lose the manpower.

[–] KatsInSpace@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

A new Netflix doc i saw was basically nazi propaganda when it came to the eastern front

[–] D61@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

That sounds about reich...

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

We can take a fucking guess

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

"He had remarkable intelligence, insight, and persuasion, all the qualities to make a successful commander, but it's unclear whether he understood his own personal connection to the Nazi project."

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

History guys often say this