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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

linkkk to the Lib den cracker

remember folks amerikkka qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 95 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

lol what democracy?

Whether a country is a democracy or not depends on whether its people are really the masters of the country. If the people are awakened only for voting but enter a dormant period soon after, if they are given a song and dance during campaigning but have no say after the election, or if they are favored during canvassing but are left out in the cold after the election, such a democracy is not a true democracy.

xi-cooking

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Who said this? Quote goes hard

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 48 points 9 months ago

it's a slightly different translation but https://redsails.org/xi-on-democracy/

xi-vote

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 82 points 9 months ago

This narrative of "trump will be worse for palestine" is dogshit when the status quo is already an exterminationist genocide.

What's he gonna do? Double genocide? Fucking libs are so stupid.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They think Trump would nuke Gaza for one thing. They can't think of the reality of that, or they think Israel would want a nuke going off in what they consider their own territory.

They can't fathom another Trump presidency outside of complete apocalypse. The reality is too painful for them: Biden and Trump are the same person and their presidencies have been largely the same. The only difference is Biden is less funny.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nuking gaza is no fucking different to bombing it until there's nothing and nobody left.

I do not give a shit who is doing the genocide. It's genocide. You can't go higher.

If their argument is instead that Trump will be more competent as a military leader than Biden and Palestine would have a harder time resisting ... is that really the line they wanna go for? That Biden is less competent than Trump?

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

no it's different, if we nuke it israel can't settle it as soon

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[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

It also completely disregards who Biden is and his history of being a genocidal warmongering maniac

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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 76 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yea unironically good if Trump "hands over" Ukraine to Russia.

Also pulling U.S out of NATO? U.S. is NATO.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Of course. Somehow libs cling to the delusion that all those countries are equal members, because power doesn't exist in their world - at least when its inconvenient for them

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

Ukraine wants to join NATO so that Estonia will protect it from Russia. Everyone knows that.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

michael-laugh just an alliance of totally equal partners

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When things are fine, we're all equal citizens of the world!kel-bliss

But when things are not fine, those ~~dirty savages~~ terrorist militants are about to find out why we don't have Healthcare!smuglord

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[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

One of those losers was saying he can't call what isntrael is doing a genocide because the court hasn't ruled on it yet while simultaneously saying ukkkraine is being genocided for the 2nd time

guts-rage I Hate libs so fucking much

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[-] Des@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

Ooo! Oo! i want early modern europe webs of complex opposing alliances! party-sicko

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

Always wanted to clap me an Archduke

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[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 74 points 9 months ago

say it with me:

abstaining from voting is not the same as voting for republican

voting a third party is not the same as voting for republican

the democrats never had my vote in the first place because they dont care about me and want me to die. well and also because im not american, but you know.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 45 points 9 months ago

They're basically admitting that they consider themselves entitled to everyone's vote by default.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

They don't care. Their whole world view is based on them being the "good people." That's why they never have to reevaluate their positions, and believe that they "can't fail, the can only be failed."

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago

I used to like/tolerate some of my city-level Dems for some half-decent stuff they did with the schools and infrastructure, but then they started saying bombing hospitals was self defense and even they lost me.

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 72 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Tell me how Biden will stop any of those things happening when he failed to even stop trans and abortion bans?

Say it with me: If Biden loses, it was his failure to appeal to the left that caused it.

The Democrats have done everything in their power to burn bridges with the left. They have made it very clear that they are not our allies. If they want peoples votes, they will have to earn it. That is democracy.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 58 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
  • Ukraine should not have received the support it did. I am glad that we are finally stopping, so this senseless meat grinder can stop.
  • When trump supports Israel, libs will at least give a shit instead of how they are now.
  • Please destroy NATO, it's a defensive alliance that has never defended a single member, instead only ever intervening in other countries' affairs.
  • This Trump guy sounds bad, do you think he will overturn Roe v Wade?
  • Pardon the insurrectionists please, it would be funny.
  • Public schools are already fascist institutions. You make kids pledge allegiance to a flag, army recruiters have free reign on school grounds, you have police that arrests kids that are acting out and you education is lacking at best and recisionist at normal. Not to mention how poor kids get to go to poorly funded schools because school funding is done in a weird way. Also just the piles and piles of racism.
  • The United states has the largest prisoner population in the world. Political prisoners is the norm, look what happened to Ferguson riot leaders and the original BLM leaders. At least libs will give a shit when it happens under Trump.
  • The United States of America is not a democracy. Pretending like one candidate can suddenly turn the system on it's head, is childish. You just think he's bad because he does what all the others do, but clumsily and obviously.
[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

The worst thing about the Ukraine war wasn't even the support, but the fact Ukraine had agreed to a peace deal in April 2022 and then the west conjured up this grand double down strategy of endless support because they believed Russia would be defeated through sanctions etc...

The Russians were right to call it a SMO and not a war it was going to be over within 60 days with mostly all their goals achieved.

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[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're pre-blaming the left for the eventual loss because they know biden is cooked

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 9 months ago

This is correct. Cant blame the Bernie bros or Russian troll farms for Bidens total lack of domestic support

[-] TAVAR@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I am gobsmacked by how bottomless the pit of liberal idiocy is. Even they should see the argument of putting pressure on Biden to make him stop a genocide.

But that's supposedly unreasonable. Liberals don't even see that possibility. Apparently it is the other way around pressure needs to be applied on those who are against genocide as genocide is just a given. How fucking dare they.

Consequently they see even less potential for political participation than I do, yet they call the US democratic and I don't.

They want to get it in your head that there is nothing you can do to prevent your representative from genociding, but that that doesn't mean he doesn't still represent your interests, "C'mon man".

"If your representative doesn't represent your interests, then we have to work on your interests! Especially if you have a problem with genocide."

There must be a way to wake up from this fucking nightmare. Or better yet wake everyone else up!

[-] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

People who still think like this after Biden are a lost cause. They might as well be Qanon.

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[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 52 points 9 months ago

lol go canvass for Biden if you love Genocide Joe so much, libs. Put your feet to the street and show us how the importance you ascribe to this election translates into mobilization. See how well you can motivate people lol.

Oh, you're just gonna whine in advance about your likely loss? Cool. Most important election ever?

PS commies don't vote for libs for president, we're not on your team and you can't shame us into supporting capitalism or genocide. Go shame your racist peepaw, you'll have better luck and you're waaay closer to him ideologically.

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[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago

Biden can't even enforce the Supremacy Clause and has almost half the states saying they may send troops to Texas to oppose the federal government.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago
  • Continues to support the illegal zionist entity: It would be hard for him to support it more than Genocide Joe already does
  • Hands Ukraine over to Russia: Not really the yanks' call to make anymore
  • pulls the US out of NATO: Lol no he won't but it would be cool and good if he did
  • pardons insurrectionists: Some hogs rioted and managed to do exactly nothing but making fools of themselves and Burgerland. It is very funny that fash went to jail but who cares if they get out again?
[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

dismantles democracy in the US

Yeah get out there and vote for one of the two kkkrakkkas that like 70% of the country don't want to run again.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

That's the democracy they think they're saving lol, where they are always one election away from dictatorship, and there is only one choice, and he's someone that no one likes who has mostly maintained the policies of the "authoritarian" predecessor

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

democracy in the us

jesse-wtf what in the US????

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

Whomp whomp run someone better. I'm voting Green Party. bridget-pride-stay-mad

I got sick of blocking endless democrat "shame" texts and started telling them directly to fuck off. "This is our ninth (!) Attempt and you still haven't taken your loyalty pledge and given tribute to Biden!"

Just seriously fuck off. There is no difference for the next 4 years. In 2028 we can the opposite party for 8 years. Which brings us to 2036 with a younger fascist republican all so you can keep your genocidal zombie.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

So:

-changes nothing

-ends a war

-critically diminishes the military arm of the US empire

-continues what started under Biden thanks to the hubris of RBG

-who gives a shit

-that's just JROTC and we already have it

-changes nothing

-lol

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Trump fucking sucks, no doubt, but the scaremongering is off the rails. Trump was already president and was basically as ineffectual as any president, with a bit more racism.

Every single election cycle it's suddenly painted as a life-or-death situation to vote Biden, seemingly just to shut up anyone who actually wants to criticise the system as a whole.

[-] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

What a tiresome election year.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

Same as it ever was

Same as it ever was

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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

Honestly if Trump could and would realistically pull US out of NATO, he'd be the best US president and it wouldn't be close

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

where's that yu-gi-oh meme where a guy says a vote for a third party is a vote for trump and then yu-gi-oh pulls a card out that says a third party vote is a vote for biden and then the dude recoils at this epic comeback

[-] axont@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

this kind of thing hasn't worked for me because I think liberals can't fathom someone voting for Trump. They think of conservative voters like a tornado or gravity, like it's an inherent feature of nature that can't be fought or bargained with. They only see room to gain ground among leftists.

and conservatives don't believe their candidate wins through voting, but rather through divine appointment, so nothing is gained by threatening to sit out a vote

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Jesus fuck they're hyperbolic and the pulling US out of NATO shows how little they understand geopolitics while being smug af about it

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

It's going to come down to one vote and it was mine and I didn't vote so a deranged lib or chud shoots me.

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