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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-himars-completely-ineffective-against-russian-jamming-report-2024-5

Jamming is a very inexpensive tactic as the software is relatively cheap and it can take out munitions worth tens of thousands of dollars, Defense One reported.

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[–] halfpipe@hexbear.net 75 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, turns out all of this high tech satellite guided shit can be easily defeated by electronic warfare if its used against an enemy that has the time and resources to adapt to it. This is the first time anyone had a chance to figure that out though, because the US has only ever used it against unarmed farmers and goat herders.

Well, at least it's not as bad as the F-35, the multi trillion dollar jet that fails to both electronic warfare and rain.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is the first time anyone had a chance to figure that out though

This is what I don’t get though, I feel like the average hexbear history buff could have told them that.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

The average hexbear history buff doesn't have millions or billions bet on people ignoring that fact.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that it also fucked Elons toys is pretty funny

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

So when people were frothingfash about musk being a secret Putinist it was really just starlink being jammed?

[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All right!

We're jamming

I wanna jam it with you

We're jamming

And I hope you like jamming, too

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

:pirate-jammin:

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

We're jamming we're jamming we're jamming we're jamming we're jamming we're jamming

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

The wunderweapon is ineffective?? shocked-pikachu

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But I was told the superior western missile systems are the best by Banderite nazis lol.

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In Arabic, Himar means donkey, very fitting

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not really, donkeys are useful

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

you're right, very unfitting

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe they can just throw them?

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 5 months ago

They'd have to recruit DPRK soldiers who were trained pushing the trains

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bit tangential but one of my favorite burger-brain trivia facts is that time the USA developed a grenade shaped like a football because they figured burger troops would be more familiar with throwing it. Pure burger moment.

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought you were misremebering the baseball grenade but apparently they did both lmao

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Never underestimate the burger brain. They'll invent Mt Dew flavored pizza before trying foreign food.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I remember an article about how American soldiers stationed in Germany were excited because American fast food chains were arriving near their base so they wouldn’t have to eat local food lol

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Who cares if it doesn't work? The point is to be expensive and stimulate the economy.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

It's arguably better because now we have to invest in a new solution!

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought that HIMARS were the ultimate superweapon of the white race? How is this possible?

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No that's the next wunderweapon, the Shadow Storm missile (don't pay attention to it's initials or the sonnenrad on the side)

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where do you see the sonnenrad?

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

It's just a joke playing on how there are a bunch of pics of Ukrainian soldiers wearing fascist symbols, I haven't seen an SS missile with a sonnenrad painted on the side

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

biden-alert "Only one man would dare give me the raspberry...PUTIN!"

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Shame they didn't have a bachelor in physics to explain how rf signaling works

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Don't give them any ideas, they'll start making wire guided himars with comically large spools of wire.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dig them from the storage*

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

Although this would provide some infrastructural reparations by leaving fiber optic cable laying everywhere

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Yes, but only for short range stuff like atgms, I'm imagining a himars with 300km of wire spooled up to avoid nefarious Russian jamming

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You know what can't be jammed? An artillery shell. Armed with that knowledge I am confident the West will continue dumping money into wunderwaffen

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

Except some of them can -- some of the US shells use GPS and whatnot to help guide it to the target.

But also the latest "aid package" to Ukraine gave them less than a full day's worth of artillery shells. The US is getting fully tapped out.

[–] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Clearly we need to give the Pentagon more money

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fake news. Everyone knows Russians are digging trenches with spoons and using metal cans attached to strings for communication

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, but it's mass produced Stalin's spoon, highly efficient!

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

the majority of an S400 system was recently destroyed by atacms. whatever the state of GPS jamming, it seems like HIMARS are still working effectively. ATACMS also have inertial guidance, so even if they lose GPS signal half way to the target, as long as it's stationary, it should still be accurate enough.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

In hindsight, we really should've insisted on, at minimum, the weapons will be effective or double your Healthcare back guarantee.