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Two guys logically explain why The Boss, a middle-aged war veteran, does not look like a 20-year-old e-girl

Gamers: Well she should look like one anyway

I'm so tired yes-honey-left

It's so fucking stupid, she looks pretty much exactly like the original character but in a photo-realistic style

Holy shit, I somehow missed the most unhinged comment:

[CW: Transphobia]

spoiler

They made the boss look trans and that's a fucking crime.

The chin is different, it looks like a man's chin, the mouth is different, it looks like a man's mouth, more specifically it looks like Chris Chan's mouth, don't believe me, go do an image search. Neither the mouth or the chin or the brow or forehead or zygomatic process feminine in any way in the remake version.

The boss has deep cheek hollows because they changed her maxilla as well, literally everything they did was to make the Boss look like a ******.

Their brains are so fucking cooked

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gamers: Realism in video games doesn’t matter, unless it’s a black person existing in a medieval setting in which case I suddenly really really care about realism.

[–] ta00000@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Heaven forbid there be a video game character with some character. I was thinking she could use a little sun damage too.

[–] Noven@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's literally soft vs harsh lighting and PS2 vs PS5 graphics. The new character model literally has the exact same bone structure as the old one. It's just that the harsher lighting on the PS5 makes her features look stronger, and reveals extra detail that the PS5 can render.

Do gamers even know how lighting works in photography and film?

The only thing I'd be critical of here is the removal of the yellow colour filter for a blue one, yes it's a stylistic choice and the yellow filter does date the original game to the mid 2000s, and the developers want to avoid their remake looking dated, but it was a big part of how the original game looked.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I would say that the Boss is supposed to have kind of a motherly or matronly vibe, but of course the gamers have to be super weird and porn-brained about that, too.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Umm sorry this doesn't look like any of the milfs i've seen in my online videos so if motherly is what they were aiming for they missed the mark.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

Snake, I'm taking these warheads to the Soviet Union - not just the missiles, but these big mommy milkers, too

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's definitely some sexuality undertones in The Boss vs. Big Boss, especially in that last fight where she's in a skintight sneaking suit half open to show booba. That's definitely intentional, she spends her the entire game in very much "unflattering" but very practical clothing.

They're basically fuckfighting to the death at the end there.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a kojima production, so it's naturally going to be a bit weird and horny (and oedipal in this case) - just not completely porn brained like the gamers are.

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[–] driving_crooner 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I swear those people have never seen a real woman on their life. They actually think hentai cartoons is the way women supposed to look.

[–] Waldoz53@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

gamers want everything to be photorealistic

game devs make women look realistic

shocked-pikachu

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

hyperflush I would call her boss

[–] valveman 23 points 6 months ago

it does not have to be realistic, it's a game

"So, you'll happily pay $200 for a triple-A game with Atari graphics and not rant about using 0.001% of your recently bought 24Gb GDDR6 graphics card that cost you your kidney, right?"

Such a bunch of losers, even they don't know what they want. I bet they'd rant about "lack of graphical improvements" if Konami released the PS2 version with PC compatibility patches.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

n_word_gaming... Little on the nose there.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

The fact that he's the closest thing to a voice of reason in this example is just chefs-kiss

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

while you were learning skills and hobbies, or going outside and talking to actual human women, i was jerking off to anime girls and AI generated porn so much that it twisted my brain into gooey mush and now i think a normal looking, quite beautiful middle aged cis woman is too masculine or ugly or whatever and I promise you, I am merely the harbinger of what is to come. You people are not ready for the world we will build. agony-turbo

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 months ago

Why are YouTube comments such a cesspool of the most reactionary brainworm-infested takes?

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol. The boss isn't a "femme fatale". I admit they kinda had mixed messages at the end with the boob scar window but its kind of a big part of her design that she's very deliberately not sexualized for the overwhelming majority of the game. The old and new models are actually both conventionally attractive in terms of their physical structure and Kojima has confirmed that a young Charlotte Rampling was the main inspiration for the Boss in terms of her physical appearance...but she's supposed to look like a war vet...not a victorias secret angel.

Also: I get very "Robin Wright" vibes from the new model...and I dig it.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Lol. The boss isn't a "femme fatale".

Gamers have no media literacy. The whole point of Eva was she was an inverse to the boss, SHE was the femme fatale spy with the sex appeal. But like I said in my other post, coomer brains just won't abide a woman being normal.

[–] flan@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

theyre doing this for every game that was announced. Perfect Dark and Fable are getting the same treatment. What a bunch or pathetic babies.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Was the Fable game that was announced different from the other Fable that they've been complaining about for a long while now

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the same remake/reboot that they're mad at, yeah. Meanwhile I'm in full soypoint-1 soypoint-2 mode because apparently Super Hans from Peep Show is in it lmao

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

The objectively correct response lol

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

I always thought the boss looked like a normal middle aged women in snake eater and like that was a deliberate design choice for obvious reasons since that's her character. She looks fine in the remake, but ofc coomer brains won't be happy unless she's yassified with plastic surgery and giant tits into a bimbo.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

White men are so funny lol. The entire ideology rests on the Madonna whore complex.

I don’t think even trans people think about other trans people as much as fascists. Like the first thing these people think about when they see someone who is an inch taller than them or an ounce stronger than them is “HOLY FUCK YOURE TRANS!!! MARXISTS STRIKE AGAIN!!”

[–] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Gamer brains are so fried they're gonna start complaining about health meters having too much gender at this point

Weird little horny nerds frothing mad at their own shadows

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Gamers just don't know what women's faces actually look like. They can fix that though. bridget-pride

[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Why lady no make pp hard!!?? pronounjak

[–] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

It’s the same picture. Which is really sad that 20 years of progress in graphics and pc performance and that’s all we can do? Honestly I get a bit frustrated loading up a triple A game and the characters look like plastic dolls while the environment looks so detailed, insane particle and lighting effects.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't get it, she's a hot MILF, why the complaining???

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Yeah, she's not even especially rugged or haggard looking, just an attractive lady in her 40s, but even that's too spicy apparently

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

squidward-scream-point

"NO, YOU'RE NOT BEING OPPRESSED BY AN IDEOLOGY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN RELEVANT IN DECADES! YOU JUST DISLIKE MODERN GRAPHICS!"

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

cursed transphobic tirade

I hope that person gets ran over by a road switcher locomotive

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely incredible that he managed to somehow bring in fucking Chris Chan into the discussion. Very healthy mind palaces

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

I've seen gamer chuds do exactly that several times, they're deranged and obsessed

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Im expecting these chuds to complain about Joanna in the latest perfect dark.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Why trouble yourself with the ramblings of these fools?

[–] The_Helmet_Stays_On@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I can only imagine what they will say about Eva if they show her before release or Meryl if they ever remake MGS1. Either way I am looking forward to the remake.

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[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

lol just play the original version on ps2 or the remaster on ps3 then. It's not like it's no longer available or something.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd really rather this just not get a remake, it's available on modern consoles and plays just fine. The more photeealistic graphics Aldo just don't really feel like they'd fit with mgs3 because that game is a cartoon. How would phtorealistic The Pain go?

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their approach to this remake is a bit odd. It largely just looks like a 1:1 remake of the original in UE5 with some gameplay tweaks which I imagine is bound to result in some weirdness.

They'll be using the original dialogue recordings so you have kinda stilted 2000s English anime dub acting coming out of extremely high fidelity 2020s character models

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Wow, that sounds fucking awful

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I'm willing to give a pass to StevenCBlah here because without further info I'm fully on board. That's fucked from start to finish. Why's she a brunette now? Why's her face all different? It's not like they just fidelity-updated her and made her look older, it's an entirely different person.

Also the lighting sucks ass now. That was an artistic choice!

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Why's her face all different?

Look closer: the structure is identical between them, it's just that things like the eyes and mouth have shifted shape slightly to accommodate an increase in detail, looking more like an actual face and less like a low-detail cartoon caricature designed to be clear and readable on a low-res screen. Her eyes also don't seem to be fully open on that exact frame which is creating a further illusion of difference, and that's 100% down to the fact that they can actually animate things like partially closing eyes against bright light now.

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[–] git@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Also the lighting sucks ass now. That was an artistic choice!

Don't worry there's a piss filter option available for people who don't want to just boot up the recently released master collection.

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Tetris will be the only legal video game alongside Disco Elysium once I establish the Democratic Socialist Republic of Palestine

[–] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

> woman in game looks her age

"it doesn't have to be realistic is a Game"

> black people in medieval setting

pronounjak-rage

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