Well at least they've moved past thinking fallout is pro-American
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It's also not pro-communist.
Fascists are just unable to understand anything artistic aren't they?
No. And you have to understand it to make it. If they hadn't been dogshit at creating art maybe the nazis wouldn't have stolen it by the ton.
Yeah, but they're very capable of separating the Patriotic video games made by Real Americans and the Commie gibberish made by the freaks in Hollywierd
O no...
Its pretty openly anti communist if you ask me
It has a character who isn't objectively evil say the word "communism" in a light that isn't awful, therefore the show is communist.
I feel like the Soviet satellite just lying randomly in the middle of an irradiated desert was kind of another victory lap for capitalism.
It is? I thought every iteration waters down the meta
Oh my fucking god grow the fuck up and get over yourself. I don’t care if Amazon’s fallout was just a video of liquid shit falling out some guy’s ass into a bowl of salad, fucking get over it you little piss baby.
And no amount of prostrating yourself before Western Europeans and shitting on the system that prevented you from being the 12th child of peasants dying from famine is going to make them stop viewing you with contempt and hatred.
Anything left of center is Communist lol
Naw it's center left, they actually dis communism at the revolutionary meetup. So yeah whatever, the ideas at any time will be the ideas of the ruling class
Soviet Ronald McDonald energy.
One of the interesting things about fallout is you never actually run into any of the enemies from the war I can think of. Like you never fight Chinese communists or russians or anything g like that.
All the people and things you meet are Americans reaction to the war. You never meet actual militant communists but there is a 50 foot tall capitalism bot.
Except maybe that fallout 3 dlc where you fight in a simulation of the Chinese invasion of Alaska to get some nice power armour.
the simulation is a racist caricature of a Chinese general seeing it from the eyes of uber patriotic chud American soldiers, it suppose to be offensive and done badly on purpose. It's an american propaganda simulation that was "corrected" by a general with racist views.
There are Chinese ghouls in one of the games, but I think they're feral.
And apparently this guy that I missed https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Zao
and the submarine crew decendants in chinatown in fallout 2
This guy has multiple videos about Illuminati and Satanic propaganda in media. Deeply unserious even for a chud YouTuber.
What bothers me with the Fallout show, is that on the surface it looks like a capitalist critique. It is partly, but it does so in a very anti-materialist comical way that ultimately you can easily discard as fiction.
Fallout show spoilers
Vault tec intentionally nuke the planet. Not to secure resources, not to end a war, not even for some vague political end that accidently goes wrong. They nuke the planet so they can deliberately live underground for hundreds of years in a cramped-ass vault.
You could almost convince me this secret society of corporate interests were legitimately talking out of both sides of their mouth to each other if it wasn't for the nuke the planet scheme. They simultaneously think competition is good, and also bad and need to end it permanently?
From what I understood of the show, Vault-Tech’s idea was if they nuke the world they get rid of all competition. If they are the ones dropping the bombs themselves, they can prepare ahead of time for survival and come out ready to dominate a completely “reset” market. It’s a sort of zero sum game; if you assume that another company will have the same idea, and you assume that they will also drop bombs after themselves preparing for the fallout and recovery, then you would want to be the first to prepare and drop the bombs. The show could have explored all of the logical fallacies with this, but they didn’t so it’s unsatisfactory in the greater theme.
I completely agree that it’s a very superficial and lazy critique of capitalism, bordering on offensive. It is slop, the only thing intentional about it is appealing to a broad audience and making profit.
Something I've been thinking about that wasn't stated in the show, wouldn't the vaults mostly run off a quasi-communist way of organization? Nobody (except vault-tech) owns the vault and it's contents, it seems that everyone contributes to the best of their abilities (even giving people like the little brother multiple chances to find a place where he can contribute) and receives what they need (I don't think they have to pay rent or buy food). I don't know if the vault dwellers even have money.
I don't think it's intentional, but it is funny to me that the solution to surviving the ultimate capitalist crisis is a communist way of life
From what I saw in the TV show they have some kind of dictatorship that pretends to be a representative democracy via rigged vote machines.
In the videogames, its not even a pretend democracy. The overseer is appointed for life by vault tek.
True, I'm not saying they adhere to an actual communinist way of organizing vault society, but the day to day has to be communal and as far as I'm aware fairly egalitarian. From just a surface level view of the vaults it seems like housing is allocated based on the needs of the vault dwellers, everyone participates in the labour required to keep the vault working and everyone alive, and effort is made to place people in careers that make best use of their talents.
This ignores the whole vault-tech evil experiments such as the one mentioned in the show that is understocked to force the residents to compete with one another, but in the "normal" vaults they aren't (to the best of my knowledge) operating on a capitalist mode of society. You don't see a vault dweller worried about making rent, though I won't rule out that it happened